What a waste of council tax

[Martin]

It's not really a choice then, is it? Pay for the fire brigade directly or burn? Either way we still pay for the services, but we're not currently held to ransom by profiteers who just want to make money.

Crime won't just go away. Unless there's a police officer on every single street and alleyway, there's always going to be crime. And that's suggesting the police can't commit crimes, but I've already listed three in this topic.

 

[TheMan]

It's always the "skools n ospitals" argument isn't it.

There wouldn't be any muggings anyway as there would be alot more police and that's the whole point, if people decide where to spend thier money they spend it more efficiently than stupid governments.

Can I say, whilst obviously schools and hospitals aren't important at all and I admire your dress sense :

I must take issue with your points that people would spend their money more efficiently. Governments are a bit crap, but X-Factor remains one of the UK's most popular shows. Really I think that says it all.

 

[ChocolateStarfish]

Grrrr, I'm only suggesting a different way, we don't have to be controlled by the political idiots you know.

X-factor is watched by kids and dossers as most sane people are down the pub on a Saturday night downing a few wife beaters. ;D

 

[TheMan]

Grrrr, I'm only suggesting a different way, we don't have to be controlled by the political tossers you know.

But how would we know what to do if it wasn't for politicians???!! They are AMAZING value for the estimated £1m per year it costs to have each one?

#Bargain

 

[ChocolateStarfish]

Grrrr, I'm only suggesting a different way, we don't have to be controlled by the political tossers you know.

But how would we know what to do if it wasn't for politicians???!! They are AMAZING value for the estimated £1m per year it costs to have each one?

#Bargain

I hope your taking the mick young man!!!! ;D

 

[TheMan]

Grrrr, I'm only suggesting a different way, we don't have to be controlled by the political tossers you know.

But how would we know what to do if it wasn't for politicians???!! They are AMAZING value for the estimated £1m per year it costs to have each one?

#Bargain

I hope your taking the mick young man!!!! ;D

Shame I can't introduce you to my Twitter feed pmsl, I think you would soon get the answer...

 

[Towseriv]

Grrrr, I'm only suggesting a different way, we don't have to be controlled by the political tossers you know.

X-factor is watched by kids and dossers as most saine people are down the pub on a Saturday night downing a few wife beaters. ;D

Well I don't think I said anything g about hospitals or schools. Ambulances are different from hospitals. I think everyone should be able to choose a level or cover for thier and thier families health and have an insurance policy to suit. This should be mandatory but will still need to be collected as a tax in reality with the option to top up or not. The same for schools, if you want a better than standard school you would pay for it.

 

[TheMan]

The same for schools, if you want a better than standard school you would pay for it.

What?

What gets me here, is you don't realise that investment in Schools is an investment in the infrastructure of the Country & our ability to compete on an international level, as well as actually helping to develop the planet & assist our evolution as a whole.

Education is NOT a privilege, it is the cornerstone of society.

That some still believe such antiquated dystopian ideology is quite concerning.

We are all aware, we live in the 21st Century now, right? RIGHT?

Just reminding those who may have been errant in their use of a Tardis and forgotten what time zone they are residing in.

 

[Towseriv]

The same for schools, if you want a better than standard school you would pay for it.

What?

What gets me here, is you don't realise that investment in Schools is an investment in the infrastructure of the Country & our ability to compete on an international level, as well as actually helping to develop the planet & assist our evolution as a whole.

Education is NOT a privilege, it is the cornerstone of society.

That some still believe such antiquated dystopian ideology is quite concerning.

We are all aware, we live in the 21st Century now, right? RIGHT?

Just reminding those who may have been errant in their use of a Tardis and forgotten what time zone they are residing in.

Don't misunderstand me, what I am saying is the way things are at the moment is that schools are allocated funding per head. This average amount would still be paid by the state to provide an education but if a family wanted a child in a better or specialised school than they should be able to choose and pay the difference.

 

[ChocolateStarfish]

If you want to look at boobs just look in the Houses of Parliament you have a choice of about 650.

 

[TheMan]

If you want to look at boobs just look in the Houses of Parliament you have a choice of about 650.

Ironically given your forum name, I'd rather say it is full of ass holes.

 

[Towseriv]

If you want to look at tits just look in the Houses of Parliament you have a choice of about 650.

Considering hardly half the electorate vote its only thier own fault. All it would take would be for the other half to find a local independent candidate and vote

 

[Martin]

I think everyone should be able to choose a level or cover for thier and thier families health and have an insurance policy to suit.

ARE YOU MAD OR STUPID?!

Seriously, what?

Health care should not be dictated by wealth. It should be about need. You shouldn't be able to choose a level of cover, that's absurd. Everyone has a right to be covered.

If people want to go private, there's nothing wrong with that, my family have used it and it was excellent, but are you seriously suggesting poorer people shouldn't be able to access proper health care because they can't afford it? "Sorry Mr Smith, you've got cancer. It's completely curable but you only earn £25k, so you'd be better get shopping for your headstone."

Anyway, big government, small government, it doesn't matter, it's the same poop either way.

 

[Towseriv]

I think everyone should be able to choose a level or cover for thier and thier families health and have an insurance policy to suit.

ARE YOU MAD OR STUPID?!

Seriously, what?

Health care should not be dictated by wealth. It should be about need. You shouldn't be able to choose a level of cover, that's absurd. Everyone has a right to be covered.

If people want to go private, there's nothing wrong with that, my family have used it and it was excellent, but are you seriously suggesting poorer people shouldn't be able to access proper health care because they can't afford it? "Sorry Mr Smith, you've got cancer. It's completely curable but you only earn £25k, so you'd be better get shopping for your headstone."

Anyway, big government, small government, it doesn't matter, it's the same shit either way.

No that's not what I mean, what I am saying is dependent on the issue should be dependent on how quickly you get sorted etc. I'm not saying life or death treatments but at the same time it shouldn't be pay private and loose out on public health either.

 

[ChocolateStarfish]

Its not as stupid as its sounds Heath being dependant on status.

Everything else is, how good your car is, how big your house, why not how good your health cover is?

Would stop all the chavs getting new breasticles.

 

[Martin]

But you don't NEED a Mercedes. You don't Need a penthouse. You do need healthcare. Why should that be a privilege of the rich?

You can't just walk in to a public hospital, take your top off and say "fill 'em up", whether you're rich or a 'chav'.

And even if it did stop that, it would also stop most people being able to get proper treatment. It wouldn't just punish the lazy or whatever, it'd punish all of us who aren't filthy rich.

 

[James]

If my car gets scrapped and I can't buy a new one, I'll still live.

If I get cancer and can't afford the treatment, I'll die.

There's a fine difference between both.

 

[Ben]

This all seems abit serious for the tavern, shall I re-home you all to the corner coffee place?

 

[ChocolateStarfish]

Your right you don't need a Mercedes, I'd be mad if I found one but an Audi now mmm I do need one of those, especially one with an S or RS before the number.

Being serious for a minute you do understand the NHS is not free don't you? It's payed for by NI which if you deducted that part off your wages then you could afford good quality health care you don't have to be rich.

 

[Martin]

It's free at the point of service, and everyone gets the same treatment. If we paid our NI contribution straight to a private company, we'd get far less value. There'd be less 'customers', so less money, so less quality kit.