Wicker Man - General Discussion - Part Two

[rob666]

Come on, the point is clear.
Crammed preshow rooms are a needless hazard to health, especially when badly managed like the Towers one.

Not just covid, what about norovirus currently going through the general population?

 

[Bowser]

I think if you’re that concerned about easily transmissible diseases theme parks perhaps aren’t the best environment to be spending your leisure time!

 

[Matt N]

The lack of order is the one thing I’ve never liked about Wicker Man’s pre-show and whole pre-boarding process.

After the baggage hold, you’re all just rammed in that waiting area together. Everyone then tries to force their way into the room, which is far too cramped for the amount of people in there. And when the show ends, it’s a scrum with everyone trying to force their way through the tiny door and there not being nearly enough room in the station to hold everyone.

I think it would be better if it was ordered in some way; perhaps some sort of queue line layout through there, or even some numbered dots for people to stand on and file out of the room in that order, wouldn’t go amiss?

 

[rob666]

I think if you’re that concerned about easily transmissible diseases theme parks perhaps aren’t the best environment to be spending your leisure time!

Just had four long years of reduced immunity...hopefully fine again now thank you.
Indoor cramped, poorly ventilated crowds are generally unhealthy...Outdoors is fine.

 

[GooseOnTheLoose]

I think if you’re that concerned about easily transmissible diseases theme parks perhaps aren’t the best environment to be spending your leisure time!

The same could be said for those who suffer when they are overly stimulated, but we make adaptions and accessibility concessions to ensure they can enjoy theme parks too. Nothing should prevent anyone from visiting and enjoying themselves, including the immune deficient.

 

[Islander]

The same could be said for those who suffer when they are overly stimulated, but we make adaptions and accessibility concessions to ensure they can enjoy theme parks too. Nothing should prevent anyone from visiting and enjoying themselves, including the immune deficient.

If you take this argument to its logical conclusion, how do you propose accommodating those with vertigo on coasters? Or those with claustrophobia or nyctophobia on dark rides?

Sadly, not everything everywhere will be accessible to everyone, and lines have to be drawn somewhere or else you remove experiences for the majority.

 

[Bowser]

If you take this argument to its logical conclusion, how do you propose accommodating those with vertigo on coasters? Or those with claustrophobia or nyctophobia on dark rides?

Sadly, not everything everywhere will be accessible to everyone, and lines have to be drawn somewhere or else you remove experiences for the majority.

Yep. As a parent of a severely disabled child who loves theme parks, I greatly appreciate the efforts many parks make to enable us to even visit in the first place but equally I accept there are many experiences we simply will never be able to have.

In terms of Wickerman, we’ve never been refused skipping the pre-show though I recall others have so it would be good to have a consistent policy people can plan for.

But really even a park like AT with very few indoor attractions is full of cramped confined situations at times. And let’s not even get onto the bacteria a typical ride restraint must harbour…

 

[GooseOnTheLoose]

If you take this argument to its logical conclusion, how do you propose accommodating those with vertigo on coasters? Or those with claustrophobia or nyctophobia on dark rides?

Sadly, not everything everywhere will be accessible to everyone, and lines have to be drawn somewhere or else you remove experiences for the majority.

I'm not discussing hypothetical extremities. Ensuring that a ride, or enclosed space, has adequate ventilation is a reasonable adjustment (as defined in the Equalities Act). In a similar vein to adjusting for those who have sensory issues triggered by the noise of hand dryers being able to use toilet facilities (dedicated disabled toilet where they wouldn't trigger a hand dryer, or toilets with other hand drying facilities).

 

[Islander]

I'm not discussing hypothetical extremities. Ensuring that a ride, or enclosed space, has adequate ventilation is a reasonable adjustment (as defined in the Equalities Act). In a similar vein to adjusting for those who have sensory issues triggered by the noise of hand dryers being able to use toilet facilities (dedicated disabled toilet where they wouldn't trigger a hand dryers, or toilets with other hand drying facilities).

Adequate ventilation is very different to “the preshow shouldn’t exist at all, and if it does shouldn’t be remotely crowded at all”

 

[GooseOnTheLoose]

Adequate ventilation is very different to “the preshow shouldn’t exist at all, and if it does shouldn’t be remotely crowded at all”

I'm missing the part where I suggested those scenarios would be reasonable adjustments.

 

[Islander]

I'm missing the part where I suggested those scenarios would be reasonable adjustments.

Oh my apologies for the misunderstanding Goosey, you didn’t, but it was the general gist of others in the thread

 

[rob666]

Adequate ventilation is very different to “the preshow shouldn’t exist at all, and if it does shouldn’t be remotely crowded at all”

Who has said that?
I must have missed the post.
Overly crowded.
No option to skip...my personal experience twice.
More than happy for it to be there, but the preshow, as is, and the needless crowding it generates, is one of the rides few flaws...
That and the needless bloody long walk on quiet days, but we can say that for a few rides.

 

[The_bup]

Benches.

They stick benches in there so everyone is basically in a few lines, which should make getting out more like three single file lines gently trickling through

 

[Bowser]

Benches.

They stick benches in there so everyone is basically in a few lines, which should make getting out more like three single file lines gently trickling through

Actually another good example is Symbolica (at Efteling, again *ahem*), where the pre-show room still has a queue line snaking round so once everyone is in, they’re still in order and no pushing when the door opens.

Though again this relies on a host monitoring capacity. Really Occams Razor suggests that having the first host control capacity before the bag drop solves any issues and all it requires AT to do is add one rope.

 

[rob666]

One whole rope?
Fittings as well though, so won't happen.

 

[James]

I like the ideas mentioned with a queueline/dots on the floor to manage the crowds better.

At the bare minimum, I feel they need to apply better crowd control with a specific number of guests per preshow run-through. It's a fix that costs nothing to implement, maybe a small cost of giving the merge host (or preshow host) a tally counter.

 

[BarryZola]

Think we’re well beyond the point where that can be a consideration for the masses - we have to live with it, and understand there’ll be tight spaces where close contact is unavoidable in life.

I know yeah, I just don't like it.