2018: General Discussion

[Matt.GC]

@Dave I don't disagree, but I wonder what revenue is associated with the guests given the season pass deal.

Indeed. Hit 400p today... @matthewgcole is OUT!

Indeed. Had my limit order set for 400p, sold yesterday at 400.21. Nice little earner. Just waiting for M&S to drop to around the 270p mark then I'm in on that!

 

[James]

I would be very happy if Sub-Terra reopened for Scarefest with more of a story/maze attached to it. I would take Sub-Terra as a seasonal Scarefest attraction over it staying SBNO for eternity. As Towers social media would say, "it's better than nothing".

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[Rick]

I can't recall the last time I saw so many coaches at Alton post-Smiler, spread across multiple car parks.

You've got to think that the hardship they suffered in that market in 2015 - 2017 is pretty much/entirely gone.

 

[Mi-Nigle]

The scaff is covered in black material now and hammers/power tools can be heard inside. Must be doing something!

Then again it could just be a speaker in there with an angle grinder playlist.

 

[delta79]

[QUOTE="Mi-Nigle, post: 230848, member: 74]"Then again it could just be a speaker in there with an angle grinder playlist.[/QUOTE]

So they may be playing a cd called 'Now that what i call power tools 83 '


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[BarryZola]

Then again it could just be a speaker in there with an angle grinder playlist.

Oh yes. All the classic hits such as Bump and Grind and Earth Angle. I hope Merlin will release the CD in the Towers gift shop

 

[RoyJess]

Looks like the 18 restrictions has returned on the rapids in time for the school trip season, pic taken from TT site

I couldn't see that this has been posted here, sorry if it has already. Looks like NST having a second floor and stairs fitted
as reported by TS on FB

 

[AstroDan]

I can't recall the last time I saw so many coaches at Alton post-Smiler, spread across multiple car parks.

You've got to think that the hardship they suffered in that market in 2015 - 2017 is pretty much/entirely gone.

And, rather awkwardly, they're many rides and food outlets down.

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[DW_0505]

When did the Oblivion Rehydrator last open? I think it's terrible that this is closed, it is what people look at when they are on Oblivion, and I think it is essentially "built in" to the structure of Oblivion, especially with it's architectural features. I feel like with that closed, and the area around it empty due to this, Oblivion almost seems incomplete - let alone the fact it is missing the ride shop.

Seems a shame that this is closed, the only Food and Drink offering in X-Sector is The Fried Chicken Company.

 

[John]

The top floor of Rehydrator is still open, not sure what their range is though.

 

[AstroDan]

Closed at present:

- TS Bar & Grill
- Spinball Noodles
- Rehydrator Nachos/Beers
- Wobble World Cafe
- Burger Kitchen FV
- Refresh@Ripsaw
- Katanga Cabin
- Courtyard Tavern

Removed and not replaced:

- Mexican Cantina

Removed and replaced:

- Fish & Chips to Coffee Lounge
- Ben & Jerry's to Coffee Bar

Added:

- Rollercoaster Restaurant

I was under the impression outlets would reopen if Alton picks up... hmm.

 

[bluesonichd]

There’s time yet for everything to open. Still 2 weeks to go until the start of the school holidays.

 

[RoyJess]

A season where we have a new SW major coaster but yet fail to reverse these dreadful cuts before the new season started by keeping most of the F&B closed is clearly a stupid oversight that even a school kid wouldn't make

 

[GaryH]

I'm amazed burger kitchen FV is still closed. For such a popular area of the park, it always had queues of people wanting food.

 

[Skyscraper]

I'm amazed burger kitchen FV is still closed. For such a popular area of the park, it always had queues of people wanting food.

Yeah, that was the place I went for food when I bought lunch at towers on my previous visits.

 

[themeparkfan]

In short when they look at the reduced year on year food and drink sales they have only themselves to blame! No its the terrorist threat or Russians using nerve toxins risk.

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[Stuntman707]

Call me crazy, but what if Merlin paid staff more than the minimum legal obligation? I've seen long queues of frustrated guests at Chessington and some of the staff could give less of a toss about serving the static queue. People walk away unhappy and potential sales are lost.

 

[DiogoJ42]

I was under the impression outlets would reopen if Alton picks up... hmm.

Now come on, old bean... I know you are not that naïve.

 

[HermanTheGerman]

Call me crazy, but what if Merlin paid staff more than the minimum legal obligation? I've seen long queues of frustrated guests at Chessington and some of the staff could give less of a toss about serving the static queue. People walk away unhappy and potential sales are lost.

Given Varney has publicly criticised the increase in the minimum wage before, I’d highly doubt they’d even consider paying more, at least not.. voluntarily

 

[Rick]

With the closed food and beverage outlets, are people of the opinion that Alton/Merlin are leaving money on the table, or do you think that people gravitate to the outlets that are open and there is no real impact in terms of revenue, just an increase in margin?

Specifically, are the park doing the same trade over a smaller number out of outlets with a reduced cost base.

Yesterday we got drinks on Towers Street, donuts from Nemices (both without any wait) and got dinner in Flambo's - which was really good in terms of quality and value - I like the Italian options, but if that's not your bag I can understand that you may miss the previous offering.

In fact, I'd be hard pressed to eat at Rollercoaster Restaurant as much as we have done in the past if I was driving and wasn't looking to get loaded up on alcohol. Two of us spent £80 or so at RCR last month, four of us was around £115 or so. At Flambo's yesterday, we ate more and it was £15 + change after MAP discount.