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2018: General Discussion

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skyscraper said:
Yeah, when i go in a few weeks i'm going on a Friday so it should be quiet, which will mean that i can use the main queues, hence, as you said, getting the full experience. I did Oblivions main queue last time as it was wquite short, plus, it broke down as i got to the front, so if i had used the rap I may have got stuck on it.
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Oh getting stuck on a coaster would be fun for me, I've had experience (galactica and nemesis break run evacs)

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ihaveaspergers said:
Oh getting stuck on a coaster would be fun for me, I've had experience (galactica and nemesis break run evacs)

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Yeah, I was a bit disappointed actually; i'm one of those crazy people who would love to be evac'd from a coaster!
 
skyscraper said:
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed actually; i'm one of those crazy people who would love to be evac'd from a coaster!
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I had Galactica breakdown on the lift hill (restarted afterwards-someone else told md the vr keeps playing) ,later that day I got evac'd from the Galactica break run, the a week or 2 later got evac'd using a belt from nemesis break run.

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MakoMania said:
I have no issue with people who need RAP using it, they are more than justified in doing so.

What really bugs me is the abuse that the system gets, and so yesterday we thought we'd do a little experiment.

We have no disability documentation, no blud badge, no letter from a doctor or anything like that. We walked into the Box Office, said that one of us had a condition that prevents queueing and boom, we had ourselves an RAP. No questions asked.

I hope that this doesn't offend any of the people who truthfully need RAP, but now we know how easy it is to get one without actually needing it.
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Given how ott they were last year, this is surprising... Like, if this is happening then the park need to look into it because it is unfair on those who need it...

In regards to legality, the parks are required to have things to place to assist those with disabilities, as per the Disability Act... The likes of Tesco or Asda have the mobility scooters and I'm sure a few other things (dedicated check outs at lower height for example)...

Removal of the RAP system could easily result in some questionable legal position for the park and Merlin... The system choice is courtesy, but the park need to show considerations towards all forms of disability, which of course includes provisions for those who cannot be in 30+ minute queues for whatever reasoning...
 
Back on topic......

Have operations been much better this weekend?

More staff working the reason do you think or are they learning from mistakes?
 
MakoMania said:
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What really bugs me is the abuse that the system gets, and so yesterday we thought we'd do a little experiment.

We have no disability documentation, no blud badge, no letter from a doctor or anything like that. We walked into the Box Office, said that one of us had a condition that prevents queueing and boom, we had ourselves an RAP. No questions asked.
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As a parent and carer of someone that uses the RAP system, this worries me. A lot people that are genuine users (myself and daughter included) spend time and NHS time getting the documentation. And then an experiment shows the system is not being stuck to by the company that made it.

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MakoMania said:
I have no issue with people who need RAP using it, they are more than justified in doing so.

What really bugs me is the abuse that the system gets, and so yesterday we thought we'd do a little experiment.

We have no disability documentation, no blud badge, no letter from a doctor or anything like that. We walked into the Box Office, said that one of us had a condition that prevents queueing and boom, we had ourselves an RAP. No questions asked.

I hope that this doesn't offend any of the people who truthfully need RAP, but now we know how easy it is to get one without actually needing it.
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I was hoping that for the 2018 season they would have improved staff training so that didn't happen, it's rare but it should be non existent.

Did your group get a letter saying it's for the day only and to bring proof next time?

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Usually they won't issue raps if documentation is not presented.

A guy got banned a few years ago for abusing the system- the park only found out when he bragged about it on social media.
 
Oblivion switched with WM for ERT :eek:
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They need to open Thirteen and Rita at 10.30 as thrill ride fillers for the morning. There is no way that I want to ride Oblivion and Spinball for an hour and a half followed by an hour riding the Smiler. An I certainly won't want to queue for 2 hours for the Wicker Man when it first opens at 10 either.
 
bluesonichd said:
True, they just need to open everything for 10am, its never going to happen now as they have not employed enough ops and techies for this to happen :(
its nice to dream tho
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That doesn't make sense to me as they all open at some point so the staff must be there just not maybe right away.

What they have done is cut their hours most likely.

Again I hate harking back to Smiler incident but when you lose 600,000 through the gates over a year, you feel the pinch.
 
Understandable but they are now cutting staff in places they shouldn't just to make more profit, not less loss.

It would be like Tesco opening their store at 9.30 but saying hey only 1 self service checkout will be open until Noon, then the rest of the checkouts will open - Tesco might be a money grabbing corporate monster, but not even they'd stoop that low.
 
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