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2019 General Election Poll and Discussion

Which party will you vote for at the 2019 General Election?

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 4 4.4%

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 15 16.7%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 3 3.3%

  • Labour

    Votes: 42 46.7%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 14 15.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Not Voting/Can't Vote

    Votes: 6 6.7%

  • Not Yet Decided

    Votes: 6 6.7%
  • Total voters
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Dar said:
I'd rather vote for the party promising dreams, than the one with a proven record of nightmares.
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Because all previous Labour regimes have been such a Utopian dream...

speedy said:
It's funny you talk about national security. Usman Khan was sentenced and released under the Conservatives after only serving half his sentence. A former head of counter terrorism the biggest risk to counter terrorism has been cuts in police numbers under the Conservative government. (source)

As for migrants, How many times has this been discussed? The people putting the most strain on the NHS are our own ageing population! There is a lack of housing after people were allowed to buy their council houses, and not enough new ones have been built. Nothing to do with immigration. Immigrants earn money, they pay taxes and thus they're entitled to the services we offer in this country (ie the NHS).
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Fair points but let’s not kid ourselves in to thinking that every immigrant arrives on these shores with a job secured and is at their desk on 9 am Monday morning ready to work.I’m fairly certain that every illegal immigrant doesn’t!I live in London and can safely say that this definitely isn’t the case.It’s also not rocket science that a no cap on immigration policy would put a massive strain on housing and the public services which labour are seemingly so keen to build on.

It’s also no illusion that mass immigration would lead to a increased amount of crime and you only need to look at incidents in recent years that have taken place in countries like Germany and Sweden arguably as a result of their open door policy.

Tomorrow’s result is going to be a very interesting one and I can see it being a very close call.Ultimately,I think Brexit (whether we like it or not) will end up being the key factor which decides how it will go.
 
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SirDossa said:
Because all previous Labour regimes have been such a Utopian dream...



Fair points but let’s not kid ourselves in to thinking that every immigrant arrives on these shores with a job secured and is at their desk on 9 am Monday morning ready to work.I’m fairly certain that every illegal immigrant doesn’t!I live in London and can safely say that this definitely isn’t the case.It’s also not rocket science that a no cap on immigration policy would put a massive strain on housing and the public services which labour are seemingly so keen to build on.

Tomorrow’s result is going to be a very interesting one and I can see it being a very close call.Ultimately,I think Brexit (whether we like it or not) will end up being the key factor which decides how it will go.
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I'm not saying that's the case but you've got Brits who don't declare their earnings, live on benefits etc. You're never going to cut out "cheating the system" entirely.

I value my own freedom of movement and want to offer that to other people as well.

I don't think it would put a huge strain on services considering Labour's ambitious spending plans.
 
speedy said:
It's funny you talk about national security. Usman Khan was sentenced and released under the Conservatives after only serving half his sentence.
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Was actually a previous Labour government that introduced this earlier release plan. The Tory's just haven't closed it in the years that have been in power so that is not strictly completely true!
 
My friend who is a squaddie opted not to vote for Corbyn last time, I think almost exclusively on a national security front. He voted for Mrs May, as I recall.

This time he is not voting Tory because they have removed the pledge from their manifesto to retain the size of our armed forces - which many in his circles are understanding to be an unwritten intention to downsize further.

It's another one of those issues where it has so many layers that don't permeate through the headlines and slogans.

It's also interesting how people's perceptions become fixed, when the polices of parties evolve between elections and are only really confirmed in manifestos. Things that are talked about as priorities in 'normal times' sometimes don't ever make a manifesto and are almost left worthless, in a lot ways.
 
GaryH said:
Was actually a previous Labour government that introduced this earlier release plan. The Tory's just haven't closed it in the years that have been in power so that is not strictly completely true!
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There's no other job in the world where you could do it for nine years and then still blame your predecessor.
 
GaryH said:
Was actually a previous Labour government that introduced this earlier release plan. The Tory's just haven't closed it in the years that have been in power so that is not strictly completely true!
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Though it appeared he wasn't vetted properly prior to release. If the Cons have cut police numbers such that they can't carry out these checks, he shouldn't have been released.
 
I voted.

Thank you for the debate over the last 30 pages. It's safe to say we covered almost every major issue at some point. I know I learned some things from reading the posts here and I hope some others did too.

I might not have changed my mind, but I did further my resolve to stand up for the politics I believe in, and stand up for the progressive future I desire.

Good luck to your respective parties, I might not agree with your opinion, and I might be more than happy to debate with you, but the one value I hold closest is the ability to have these opinions and to be able to vote on them.

Going to be an interesting evening!
 
Lets be fair though, this thread was always the "Labour party supporters thread"

Lets see what happens tonight, I think it will be close.
 
GaryH said:
Lets be fair though, this thread was always the "Labour party supporters thread"
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Only because of the demographics of the forum. It just highlights what we said earlier in the thread about > 49 year olds being more likely to vote Cons and younger voters supporting Lab.

Obviously with exceptions, but I think largely the same applies to theme parks and coasters!

Sadly, Towers Street Exit Poll might not be representative of the UK as a whole:

Lab 47.7 %
Cons 16.3 %
Lib Dems 16.3%
 
GaryH said:
Lets be fair though, this thread was always the "Labour party supporters thread"

Lets see what happens tonight, I think it will be close.
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That doesn't prevent you from putting arguments across, and I think most people here have listened and remained civil throughout.
 
Think we're all happy to actually debate people, unfortunately when language such as traitors and snowflakes are used it understandably causes things to be strained as there's only so much people can take if being insulted.

That in of itself led to my long post the other day after being sick of people refusing to actually debate and argue their case. It's not good for anyone.
 
Was surprised to see the Greens running in my area, pretty sure they never have before. Regardless, voted Labour.
 
BarryZola said:
Similar story here. I was going to vote Labour but they weren't running so I just picked the Conservative bloke.
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Wait, Labour weren't running? If you don't mind me asking, which constituency do you live in, as I thought Labour were running in pretty much all UK constituencies?
 
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