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2019 General Election Poll and Discussion

Which party will you vote for at the 2019 General Election?

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 4 4.4%

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 15 16.7%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 3 3.3%

  • Labour

    Votes: 42 46.7%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 14 15.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Not Voting/Can't Vote

    Votes: 6 6.7%

  • Not Yet Decided

    Votes: 6 6.7%
  • Total voters
    90
BarryZola said:
These people still don't get it to they? It's things like this that make a mockery of the Labour cause.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...-boris-johnson-general-election-a4313391.html
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Barry, mate, for the second time in an evening... You won! It's your big night, take it easy. I know that if the Conservatives would have lost, I would have been relieved and maybe even out celebrating knowing the country was moving in the right direction, not sitting on here, engaging in misanthropy towards my irrelevant opponents. As I said, it's an emotive time, but at least you know the British public made the right choice. I can't necessarily defend the actions of the people in the video @bluesonichd posted, but somebody with the respect for democracy that you have shown to have should know that there's nothing untoward about public protest. There will be more to come, and I'm sure the establishment can take it.

In any case, left or right, I hope in the future that politics can be more defined by what people are for, rather than against.
 
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Now, before I post what I'm about to post, let me clarify; I didn't want a Conservative majority government either. I've never supported Brexit and have always backed remaining in the EU. I was hoping that Labour would defy the polls and win some sort of major influence in the House of Commons. I would probably support a second referendum if one was to be called. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that I'm probably on the exact opposite end of the spectrum to the sort of voter that the Conservatives were appealing to.

However, I think we should accept the outcome and at least give Boris Johnson and the Conservatives a chance to prove themselves in government before criticising them. I know Boris has been prime minister since July, but I think things might be different now he has a majority (and a pretty substantial one at that!). This outcome may be a long way from my preferred outcome of this election, but I don't think a majority Conservative government will be entirely doom and gloom like some are predicting, and let me explain why I think this.

Firstly, look at Boris Johnson's pledges for his first 100 days in government. While his pledges may not be to my personal taste in the way that Labour's were, there is still some good stuff in there. For example, he's pledged to increase spending on things such as education, and he's going to start looking into ways to solve the social care crisis. Surely these things can only be good for the country? While the Conservatives' manifesto was far from my favourite, there are still some good pledges in there if you look hard enough. These could still make real improvement within our country. And Boris is in a very powerful position to make these pledges materialise; there are 365 Conservative MPs in the Commons who will vote to do his bidding. That's 80 more than all of the other parties have put together, and this is the most seats the Conservatives have won in 32 years. We're not in the days of the hung parliaments anymore, where the Conservatives were in a vulnerable position to get their pledges through. With his large majority, Boris can get his pledges through and make the changes he wants to make in this country.

With regards to his stance on Brexit; I must admit, it is perhaps a little too quick and risky for my liking. I would have personally preferred a longer period to negotiate the best possible trade agreement with the EU. However, if there's one good thing I can say about Boris Johnson, it's that he gets things done quickly. To give him some credit, he did manage to renegotiate the Withdrawal Agreement Bill when no one thought he could, so anything is possible, really! Even though I've never supported Brexit, and if you gave me the option to Remain, I'd take that in a heartbeat, I do think we should give Boris' deal a chance. Deep down, I don't think Boris is as much of a hard-line Brexiteer as some make him out to be; his deal apparently keeps quite close links with the EU, and he did manage to solve the issue of the Irish border in a way that everyone seems to like (well, more than they liked the backstop, anyway.).

Before I ramble on for too long, let me conclude. I am just as disappointed as the other supporters of left-wing parties on this site that the left-wing parties didn't get a greater number of seats in the election. I would have adored a Labour government. I haven't suddenly become a Brexit-backing Conservative supporter by any means. However, I think we should embrace our new Conservative government with an open mind and give Boris Johnson a chance to implement his policies. For all we know, they could work out better than we expect!
 
speedy said:
Can't wait for Johnson to be terrible and you'll still somehow blame it on Labour.

Also, what's wrong with Jess Phillips?
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If Boris fecks it up then I'll be most perturbed about it all and I will look at who to vote for next o_O

I wasnt always a blue voter

And Jess.. there just something about her that winds me up, cant stand her, have to switch the mute button on when she starts talking
 
From the little I've seen of her she seems to be unable to control her emotions in situations where she probably should. A bit hot headed, if you like. I think Labour could aim for better. Get David Miliband back, if he even cares any more. This wil be an important appointment so it's more about what's actually right with the canditate.
 
@Matt N There’s no need for a second referendum now buddy. That was it - it’s fairly clear. Remaining is now not an option. That dream is over.

It makes me incredibly sad but I’ve accepted that people want to leave.... and I’m a daft lefty remainer member of the Labour Party!
 
Stuie said:
@Matt N There’s no need for a second referendum now buddy. That was it - it’s fairly clear. Remaining is now not an option. That dream is over.

It makes me incredibly sad but I’ve accepted that people want to leave.... and I’m a daft lefty remainer member of the Labour Party!
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That's sort of what I was thinking; the sheer size of the Conservative majority certainly doesn't imply that Remain would win a second referendum even if one was to be held, which is now incredibly unlikely under a Johnson government! Now, I think the best course of action is to get behind Johnson's deal and ensure that we can form agreements that keep us linked with the EU and give the UK what's best for all its citizens!
 
Keir Starmer is a solid candidate for Labour and I'd be happy for him to become PM
 
This government, is the direct fault of "remoaners"
After a year of parliament openly conspiring to block brexit...the country has had enough, it's no longer about brexit, it's now simply about the principle of democracy! We voted...so now we have to do it!

No one wanted this... but thanks to labour, lib dems and every other party who tried to block democracy, we have been left with no other choice!

(PS I actually voted brexit party, living in a labour stronghold, I suspected that while they would vote against remain, they would not vote tory simply out of tradition. Based on this suspicion, I tactically voted brexit party at the last second...seems I was hella wrong! Wow!)
 
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Five more years of Austerity oh happy days NOT. I understand that people want out of the EU. I dont pretend to understand why people want to leave but there you go. I feel for the disabled, the sick the mentally I'll and anyone who doesnt have a trust fund.
 
Snagglemama said:
Five more years of Austerity oh happy days NOT. I understand that people want out of the EU. I dont pretend to understand why people want to leave but there you go. I feel for the disabled, the sick the mentally I'll and anyone who doesnt have a trust fund.
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Wasn’t all about leaving it was people saw the joke that was Corbyn and his unworkable spending plan.
Watched Jack Straw last night confirming Corbyn - and IRA loving anti Semite terrorising sympathiser :eek:
But hey that’s all in the past now.
Time to move on
One Nation
 
If people are going to go out protesting the best thing they can do is protest against this momentum movement within the Labour party and get the party back to what it once stood for. Then, hopefully, I'll have a Labour party I can vote for again one day as when you have the likes of McDonnell and Corbyn pulling the strings they've got no chance.
 
I actually agree. Labour need to reconnect with the people and work out where they've gone wrong. Brexit and Corbyn are major factors, but I don't think it's just that alone.

I'm actually happy we have a majority government now. Even though it's not the direction I want, at least the country can move again. We couldn't go on being deadlocked.
 
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