I wouldn't pay for it even if it did include theme park tickets. Rip off if you ask me
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2021: General Discussion
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themeparkfan
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What is all this hotel and breakfast thing about???? Surely if booking an overnight stay at a theme park you expect it to include a visit to the main reason why you are there in the first place? Especially if MAPs are going and season passes wont be as freely available
AT86
TS Member
The likes of Disney World, Universal and Europa Park operate in a similar way, you add your tickets on - could be one day, two day, waterpark, theme park or both, or spa etc.
jon81uk
TS Member
I don’t like paying more than £200 a night for a hotel anywhere. Of course the Enchanted village rooms are designed to sleep two adults and two kids so are a bit bigger than some that only accommodate two adults. But I wouldn’t pay more than £150 at Alton Towers for any room really as there isn’t any significant benefit of being on site other than location.
Disney hotel rooms are also overpriced but generally feel like they offer more benefits even if breakfast isn’t included.
Disney hotel rooms are also overpriced but generally feel like they offer more benefits even if breakfast isn’t included.
djtruefitt
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Problem is staying during the moment will lack all sorts you usually get when stopping on resort. You’ll leave the park at ride close and then all got can do is sit in your lodge and order a pizza from crooked spoon.
There’s no chance to watch the entertainment in the hotels, or have a drink, a meal to take up time or visit the spa or water park. With it being April you probably won’t be able to even sit outside. So you’ll literally be stuck in your room all evening. Then breakfast is just a bacon roll.
Fine if it was cheaper, but they are charging proper premium prices.
There’s no chance to watch the entertainment in the hotels, or have a drink, a meal to take up time or visit the spa or water park. With it being April you probably won’t be able to even sit outside. So you’ll literally be stuck in your room all evening. Then breakfast is just a bacon roll.
Fine if it was cheaper, but they are charging proper premium prices.
Steve74
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I paid £265 to stay in Splash Landings on a Friday night during Oktoberfest last year. But I was happy to pay that because it was a room for 5 adults so we split it 5 ways - £53 each which included a full buffet-type breakfast (not quite help yourself due to covid).
I thought that was good value per person when you think you are staying in a Theme Park hotel, breakfast is included, both days you can park for free away from the main car park and no travelling to and from the park. Compare that to a Premier Inn and breakfast in one of their attached pubs: 5 adults would be 3 rooms. If we say approx £90 per room (it was that price for that night last year) that's £270 already without breakfast.
So if you're staying with people who pay their share then these prices are better value for money; not the best value but certainly good.
But I'd have never paid that room price if I took my kids there when they were little.
Something I wanted to touch on for a while was the queue lengths during scarefest being surprisingly high for the capacity last season. So the capacity from what some have said is 10k and the day I went was sold out. I went on 18th October and the queues at one point were:
Wicker man 80
Th13teen 70
The smiler 60
Rita 60
Spinball 50
Galactica 45
Nemesis 40
Oblivion 35
On the same day the year before when the attendance was around 17k the queues were:
Wicker man 90
The smiler 80
Th13teen 80
Rita 70
Galactica 60
Spinball 55
Nemesis 50
Oblivion 45
As you can see the queue times are very similar but yet the day in 2019 had 7k more guests in the park. I know the throughputs will be lower due to social distancing but how is it effecting them that much
Wicker man 80
Th13teen 70
The smiler 60
Rita 60
Spinball 50
Galactica 45
Nemesis 40
Oblivion 35
On the same day the year before when the attendance was around 17k the queues were:
Wicker man 90
The smiler 80
Th13teen 80
Rita 70
Galactica 60
Spinball 55
Nemesis 50
Oblivion 45
As you can see the queue times are very similar but yet the day in 2019 had 7k more guests in the park. I know the throughputs will be lower due to social distancing but how is it effecting them that much
D4n
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Many of the rides were running at literally 50% capacity - or less (Th13teen)!
Doesn't take a genius to work out that queues will be significantly longer relative to the number of guests in the park. Even in the example you gave, attendance wasn't reduced by as much as 50%.
Doesn't take a genius to work out that queues will be significantly longer relative to the number of guests in the park. Even in the example you gave, attendance wasn't reduced by as much as 50%.
D4n
TS Member
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50% of theoretical park capacity is not the same as 50% of the usual gate.
I can think of very, very few examples of the park ever hitting its actual capacity in recent years.
Craig
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It's worth noting that Towers never seemed to get a proper handle of the actual queue times do to social distancing spreading the queues out way further than usual. With the exception of a couple of occasions, pretty much every ride was well under the advertised queue time on my visits.
Even away from the accuracy of queue times, social distancing still plays a huge factor due the delays getting people on and off the ride, then don't forget you have at least 5 minutes downtime regularly when the trains/cars are cycled through for cleaning too.
Even away from the accuracy of queue times, social distancing still plays a huge factor due the delays getting people on and off the ride, then don't forget you have at least 5 minutes downtime regularly when the trains/cars are cycled through for cleaning too.
Thats a good point I've heard plenty of people say the same that the queues were overestimated. I don't think any were too far off for me from what I remember but the smiler was definitely always the most accurate. Because that ride hits capacity regularly, they seem to have figured out pretty accurately how long the queue is from certain points
Thameslink Rail
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- The Smiler
I thought I had just answered that in another topic...
Yes sorry I changed it to the main discussion as it didn't really have any relevance to virtual queueing
Steve74
TS Member
I had to look that up and found it is Gastroesophageal reflux disease - is that right? If so, I suffer from that a bit because I have a hiatus hernia and get acid reflux as a result. I control that with prescription tablets which reduce acid production but even when I wasn't taking them before my condition was diagnosed I did ride coasters and they never caused me any issues. Depends on the severity of the condition I guess though
Thank you very much that helps a lot. I was only asking because we all know coasters can and do affect our stomachs but I imagine it should be alright hopefully
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