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Blackpool Pleasure Beach: 2023 Discussion

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The question I’m wondering now though is “how much?”

I think realistically £5 is too cheap and everyone would pay it so potentially between £10-15.

I know probably some of the general public are going to be abit miffed that they’d have to pay more for the experience, but is this a trial from pleasure beach to see how popular it is? To the extent they could extend it to a full train eventually?
 
And bizarrely the map also claims that I am stood outside the T-Cafe (near W&G), but I can assure you I am actually currently in a small village between Rotherham and Worksop. So they've got that wrong!!!

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Based on Enso just having just 2 seats on 1 train available we can assume a capacity somewhere in the order of 30 people per hour, possibly slightly less depending on how badly the seatbelts (and Enso itself) affect operations. With that in mind I think anything less than about £10 is unlikely but they'll have to get the pricing right as it would be a bit embarrassing if no-one pays and they just end up plucking people out of the main queue at random to fill the seats.

I nearly made a joke about Nick Land still being on this years park map but felt it unnecessary. Sadly I was wrong.
 
The argument will be that if people don't want to do it, they don't have to pay for it. But it will disappoint quite a few guests. Upcharge attractions like Sky Coasters and go kart tracks used to be a lot more common, but when was the last time a British park added something like that? I suspect the reason they don't is partly because it's a common complaint on Trip Advisor. I know you could argue that Fast Track is a bit like a pay per ride model, but the feeling a lot of guests have is that you pay to get in/get your wristband and then every attraction should be included.
 
John said:
Based on Enso just having just 2 seats on 1 train available we can assume a capacity somewhere in the order of 30 people per hour, possibly slightly less depending on how badly the seatbelts (and Enso itself) affect operations. With that in mind I think anything less than about £10 is unlikely but they'll have to get the pricing right as it would be a bit embarrassing if no-one pays and they just end up plucking people out of the main queue at random to fill the seats.

I nearly made a joke about Nick Land still being on this years park map but felt it unnecessary. Sadly I was wrong.
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And obviously extrapolating this, 15 Ensō trains and 15 normal trains as they now only run 2 tops due to seatbelt faff iirc gives 450pph.

Oh dear.
 
Won’t this also mean that one train out of the 3 will now only have 14 riders in it instead of 16, and if Enso isn’t booked, it’ll only have 12?
 
The oddest thing about having a single train with the spinning seats is that if they want to offer Enso daily, that train will always have to run. They seem to make quite a point of swapping the existing ones out when running less than 3 (almost always).
 
Rick said:
The oddest thing about having a single train with the spinning seats is that if they want to offer Enso daily, that train will always have to run. They seem to make quite a point of swapping the existing ones out when running less than 3 (almost always).
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That's a really good point actually Rick. Will be interesting to see what they do about that. :)
 
I think it sometimes still runs 3 trains but often double stacks when it does, so whether or not they actually bother putting all 3 on remains to be seen. Enso throughput would be higher on 2, certainly
 
Fixed the map for you @rob666

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If we say roughly 15 Ensō trains an hour, 3 trains on circuit, 4 mins per Ensō dispatch. 15.333 people per train on average, it'd be 45 trains an hour and 690pph. Still way short of decent.
 
I mean with the unveiling of Nemmy retrack, my prediction of Vekoma BoomerWing at CWOA is unlikely.

Very interested now in price. Anything over a fiver is running the risk of no uptake.
 
I think it's on a German fair. There is photo of them sat on a trailer in front of a coaster with Sutcliffe and Best still in the band.
 
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I think it's on a German fair. There is photo of them sat on a trailer in front of a coaster with Sutcliffe and Best still in the band.
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Didn't even think of that, I assumed Southport or another northern seaside resort.

Makes sense as George was deported from Germany for being under 18. Must have been not long after that photo.
 
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