Coronavirus

[RoyJess]

I've posted links like this before, just in-case you still think that covid is a hoax, fake news or just simply not taking this seriously

'I thought COVID didn't exist... until I got sick': Influencer dies from coronavirus

A fitness "influencer" who thought COVID-19 did not exist has died from the virus at the age of 33.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...virus/ar-BB1a8CI5?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

 

[Matt N]

Promising vaccine news, guys! Extremely promising, in fact!

According to a political source who has met with Jonathan Van-Tam, the deputy chief medical officer, he apparently said that the phase 3 results for AstraZeneca’s vaccine are on track to be positive. These are expected to come between the end of this month and the end of next month, meaning that vaccination could possibly begin in December/January!

Here’s my source for this info: https://apple.news/AAkaABGd_TzGCR-XVe8a0Ig

Very exciting, don’t you think?
EDIT: Full article:

The NHS is preparing to introduce a coronavirus vaccine soon after Christmas. Trials have shown it will cut infections and save lives, Jonathan Van-Tam, the deputy chief medical officer, has privately revealed.

He told MPs last week that stage three trials of the vaccine created at Oxford University and being manufactured by AstraZeneca mean a mass rollout is on the horizon as early as December. Thousands of NHS staff are to undergo training to administer a vaccine before the end of the year.

The government changed the law this weekend to expand the number of health professionals able to inoculate the public. The regulations will enable pharmacists, dentists, midwives and paramedics to administer jabs.

Van-Tam gave a briefing to MPs on Monday afternoon in which he said: “We aren’t light years away from it. It isn’t a totally unrealistic suggestion that we could deploy a vaccine soon after Christmas. That would have a significant impact on hospital admissions and deaths.”

The first vaccines will be given to the elderly and vulnerable and to vaccinate those most at risk will take several months. Most people will not be given the jab.

An MP who attended another briefing with Van-Tam said he was “very bullish about the third stage AstraZeneca results, which he expects between the end of this month and the end of next”. The MP said: “Van-Tam expects it to protect the elderly and vulnerable. He gave us to understand that it stopped the virus ‘shedding’ in the young. He said he would expect vaccination to start in January.”

Boris Johnson warned last week that there might never be a vaccine, but insiders say he did so because the government does not want to “overpromise and underdeliver”.

A health department official confirmed a “robust and comprehensive training programme” was being developed by the NHS and Public Health England to train more people to administer injections.

Matt Hancock, the health secretary, said: “These legal changes will help us in to make sure we are ready to roll out a safe and effective Covid-19 vaccine as soon as it has passed clinical trials and undergone rigorous checks by the regulator.” Van-Tam added: “Vaccines are being developed at a speed that, if successful, will save lives.”

 

[Skyscraper]

I've posted links like this before, just in-case you still think that covid is a hoax, fake news or just simply not taking this seriously

'I thought COVID didn't exist... until I got sick': Influencer dies from coronavirus

A fitness "influencer" who thought COVID-19 did not exist has died from the virus at the age of 33.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...virus/ar-BB1a8CI5?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

I heard about him but didn't know he'd passed away.
RIP.

 

[delta79]

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[Jonathan]

Am I normal for craving roast lamb after seeing that?

 

[Matt N]

In an update to the vaccine story, SAGE scientists even suggest that we should expect more than one to be available by early 2021: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...le-early-in-2021-sage-scientist-says-12107285

 

[Skyscraper]

This is the future of concerts folks

 

[monkeyboy]

This is the future of concerts folks

Looks like a normal Merlin up sell


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[Tim]

Something of interest. I flew back from Italy yesterday (you can probably guess why) and I have to say the mood over there feels so different to here. Masks are mandatory anywhere there are other people. That's indoors, outdoors and even in your car (unless it's just you or a close family member). I don't think there were any exemptions either. It wasn't stopping anyone getting on with their day to day lives but it was quite noticeable arriving back in the UK and seeing how busy everywhere seems to be.

Side note, I flew over Gardaland on my way back. It was an unexpected surprise! Adds to my growing list of rides I've seen but not ridden

 

[Burbs]

Yep, I noticed when travelling around Europe in the summer that there were no (obvious) exemptions to mask wearing over there. For example at Europa-Park, if security caught you with your mask off in a queue then you'd be forcibly removed from that queue.

 

[BarryZola]

Yes, it's because as a country we've become way too much of a soft touch in many aspects of life. Too scared of upsetting little Timmy in this country.

 

[RoyJess]

Promising vaccine news, guys! Extremely promising, in fact!

Very exciting, don’t you think?

In an update to the vaccine story, SAGE scientists even suggest that we should expect more than one to be available by early 2021:

I'm not excited, even if a vaccine is proven to be effective by Christmas, logistically this won't end this crisis until another year or two. First they need to get the vaccine safety approved, this won't happen until spring next year the earliest. First they will roll it out to front line NHS health workers. Then they need to roll this out to the vulnerable, yet many vulnerable were not put on the shielding list. MP's gave the criteria and they are not health experts. Many rare conditions that should have been on the shielding list didn't make it as they were over looked.

Jess and I qualify for the flu vaccine each year. We have been told that we should have it more than ever this year. We have contacted our GP to have the flue vaccine and should have had it by now. Despite it being on the system for us to have the flue vaccine, we are still waiting to receive it and we doubt that we will get it. We were booked to have it a few weeks ago, but the nurse didn't receive any vaccine to give to us. They only have limited stock.

If they are having problems with the extra flu vaccine for the vulnerable, I'm sure that they will definitely have problems distributing the covid vaccine.

The vaccine is not going to be the magic bullet, it is expected to be around 50% effective just like the flue vaccine. To receive herd immunity, a majority of the population will require immunisation, not just in this county, but world wide. Immunity is short lived, so a regular boosters will be required. Not everyone is going to take up the vaccine.

Yes we will get through this and return back to normal some day, but covid will be with us for many years to come, even if it's just the odd case popping up now and again. Restrictions will be in place for another year or two.

This is the future of concerts folks

I see that they taken forming the whole bubble thing literally At least they are keeping 2 meters apart, and if covid don't kill them, they will certainly suffocate. Dutch oven also comes to mind

 

[Swarm Chris]

Jess and I qualify for the flu vaccine each year. We have been told that we should have it more than ever this year. We have contacted our GP to have the flue vaccine and should have had it by now. Despite it being on the system for us to have the flue vaccine, we are still waiting to receive it and we doubt that we will get it

This year's flu vaccine has been so badly distributed. Government says we have ample stock, maybe even more than ever before, yet I've heard a lot of places saying they've received none and expected dates to receive any have been pushed back more and more. I was lucky to get a random call from the doctors last week saying they had some turn up and I could have it if I could come in the next day.

This is the future of concerts folks

Isn't this just a normal Flaming Lips concert anyway.

 

[Rob]

I'm not excited, even if a vaccine is proven to be effective by Christmas, logistically this won't end this crisis until another year or two. First they need to get the vaccine safety approved, this won't happen until spring next year the earliest. First they will roll it out to front line NHS health workers. Then they need to roll this out to the vulnerable, yet many vulnerable were not put on the shielding list. MP's gave the criteria and they are not health experts. Many rare conditions that should have been on the shielding list didn't make it as they were over looked.

Jess and I qualify for the flu vaccine each year. We have been told that we should have it more than ever this year. We have contacted our GP to have the flue vaccine and should have had it by now. Despite it being on the system for us to have the flue vaccine, we are still waiting to receive it and we doubt that we will get it. We were booked to have it a few weeks ago, but the nurse didn't receive any vaccine to give to us. They only have limited stock.

If they are having problems with the extra flu vaccine for the vulnerable, I'm sure that they will definitely have problems distributing the covid vaccine.

The vaccine is not going to be the magic bullet, it is expected to be around 50% effective just like the flue vaccine. To receive herd immunity, a majority of the population will require immunisation, not just in this county, but world wide. Immunity is short lived, so a regular boosters will be required. Not everyone is going to take up the vaccine.

Yes we will get through this and return back to normal some day, but covid will be with us for many years to come, even if it's just the odd case popping up now and again. Restrictions will be in place for another year or two.

You could well be right with all of that, but as it stands it is purely speculation. And even having say 20-30% of a population vaccinated would be enough to slow down transmission.

You are probably right that we will totally balls up any roll out of a vaccine as we watch other countries doing it seemingly without issue.

 

[Skyscraper]

Full video if anyone wants to watch;

 

[pluk]

I had a raging temperature last night and this morning, so started to self isolate and booked into a test.

Booked at 4am.
Availability at 10:30 at a drive through about 6 miles away.
Turned up to a wait of less than 5 minutes with effectively a conveyer belt of people being processed, was all done in 5 minutes.
Results due within 48 hours.

There has been a lot of negatively about the process, but I thought this was pretty impressive really.

My temperature is still up but has subsided quite a lot, I'm doubtful I have it. Hopefully will know soon...

 

[Jonathan]

I had a raging temperature last night and this morning, so started to self isolate and booked into a test.

Booked at 4am.
Availability at 10:30 at a drive through about 6 miles away.
Turned up to a wait of less than 5 minutes with effectively a conveyer belt of people being processed, was all done in 5 minutes.
Results due within 48 hours.

There has been a lot of negatively about the process, but I thought this was pretty impressive really.

My temperature is still up but has subsided quite a lot, I'm doubtful I have it. Hopefully will know soon...

Mum's been tested twice now (negative each time), and she's had no trouble at all getting a test booked, waiting to have it done, or getting the results. Having said that, I'm not denying that there haven't been problems elsewhere. Regardless of whether it's coronavirus or not, I hope you feel better soon.

 

[Craig]

I think that's the problem at the moment, the situation is so varied. There's some people I know who've waited up to 6 days to receive results. For someone who could potentially be positive that's over half their isolation over with.

For those lucky enough to be working from home or with decent sick pay, that's not as bad. However those that are self employed, or in lower paid jobs that's a huge issue. Statutory sick pay is pretty much always going to be considerably smaller than standard wages.

As we've seen too often, Covid symptoms can come and go, or be incredibly mild for a short period or even non existent for some. That risks people feeling better and assuming that their test will come back negative, which results in them going out potentially spreading the virus. Additionally, test and trace only kicks in off the back of a positive Covid diagnosis. Speed is essential in this part of the system, and those testing delays are wreaking havoc with trying to nip clusters in the bud before they get out of hand.

The government should not be accepting anything less than people being tested and a result received within 24 hours, with contact tracing kicking in immediately after that. Anything that exceeds those timelines does nothing to help the current situation.

 

[Skyscraper]

I had a raging temperature last night and this morning, so started to self isolate and booked into a test.

Booked at 4am.
Availability at 10:30 at a drive through about 6 miles away.
Turned up to a wait of less than 5 minutes with effectively a conveyer belt of people being processed, was all done in 5 minutes.
Results due within 48 hours.

There has been a lot of negatively about the process, but I thought this was pretty impressive really.

My temperature is still up but has subsided quite a lot, I'm doubtful I have it. Hopefully will know soon...

Hope you feel better soon!

 

[Benjsh]

Why are people so certain a vaccine will stop this? We have a flu shot readily available to the public and its not even close to 100% effective as it usually combats the previous flu season's strain. My father had a flu shot about 3 years ago and that winter he had a terrible chesty cough and flu symptoms that lasted months.

And we know covid changes and morphs into new strains. The vaccine could be problematic for the same reason. Basically not up to date with the latest strain of the virus.