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I have seen today the incridlebe rate at which people are being vaccinated. They are getting through the lists considerably faster than planned locally to me, and vaccinating beyond the bookings where physical vaccine numbers allow, calling in next in line and front line workers ahead of schedule.

It really is something. With the opening of the regional hubs I can well believe everyone will be offered the vaccine ahead of current predictions if the physical production can keep up the current pace.
 
With regards to the Vaccine rollout, I personally feel quite optimistic and got that feeling that this might be that rare occasion where this government has for once has under promised and will over deliver. I feel it will be feasible to offer all adults a vaccine by the summer
 
Another bit of fresh optimism for you all that should hopefully put us in good stead for when vaccination is more prevalent; Israel has vaccinated 25% of the population, and has already seen a 50-60% decrease in COVID cases. That shows that the vaccine will definitely have an effect once plenty have been done, which makes me hopeful for the lockdown lifting timeline.
 
pluk said:
I have seen today the incridlebe rate at which people are being vaccinated. They are getting through the lists considerably faster than planned locally to me, and vaccinating beyond the bookings where physical vaccine numbers allow, calling in next in line and front line workers ahead of schedule.

It really is something. With the opening of the regional hubs I can well believe everyone will be offered the vaccine ahead of current predictions if the physical production can keep up the current pace.
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The NHS and Military have worked together in a way never seen before. Also they partner organisations are pushing on hard with their efforts in support.

Alsty said:
I think we should wait and see on that front, @RoyJess. There's plenty of time for the government to cock it up yet.
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The government has to do something big to screw up vaccination, as it is out of their hands now.
NHS vaccination and military logistics are working together running the show. Along with a national volunteer organisations.



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RoyJess said:
This government is supposed to be leading us through a pandemic, so it's down to them to lead by example. One of the failings has been those at the top not leading by example. If Boris pleads that we all should stay at home this weekend, regardless what the rules are, then those at the top should lead by example and practice what they preach. The Dominic Cummins effect has already shown how it undermines the rules and leads to people flouting the rules.

This government is leading by do as I say and not as I do example which in my opinion is a government failing and a relevant story, especially to all those that have been following the rules to a T
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Yes, the governemtn should lead by example. But no where in the rules does it state that you should not go out to a park for your exercise over the weekend. I'm all for pulling up the government and ministers where they have messed up, and that has happened far too often. But this is not one of those cases. Exercise is deemed as a necessary reason to leave home. I did it over the weekend.

I don't like Hancock but to be fair to the chap he has been working flat out for the best part of a year. Family time is probably quite limited so I am not going to have a go at him for using some of his free time to play rugby with his son in a park.
 
Rob said:
Yes, the governemtn should lead by example. But no where in the rules does it state that you should not go out to a park for your exercise over the weekend. I'm all for pulling up the government and ministers where they have messed up, and that has happened far too often. But this is not one of those cases. Exercise is deemed as a necessary reason to leave home. I did it over the weekend.

I don't like Hancock but to be fair to the chap he has been working flat out for the best part of a year. Family time is probably quite limited so I am not going to have a go at him for using some of his free time to play rugby with his son in a park.
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It's not about breaking the rules, it's about putting out mix messages and not leading by example. I presume that you haven't seen the public information video that Boris put out for this weekend? I don't think Boris plea was any clearer to the public. It's a case of "Boris Say's, not as Matt do"

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Islander said:
I mean this government is appalling, and have mishandled this pandemic in so many ways... but to highlight this non-story is ludicrous. Matt Hancock seen walking alone in a park... when guidelines clearly state that you are permitted to walk alone outside for exercise.

How about we actually concentrate on being critical about government failings, rather than blowing up news stories around nothing?
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Did you read the article, it was said he was playing rugby with his son and caked in mud.

Whether that is an appropriate form of exercise is another question, but he wasn't just walking alone.

I think going out for a walk from your house absolutely should be permitted, but driving or using public transport to get somewhere shouldn't be done.
Not sure if playing one-on-one sport should be done or not, but it doesn't seem to be against the rules.

I agree its a non-story but its hard to see whether he was doing anything wrong or not, but it was reported as more than just a walk.

Oh I'm not making a judgement on whether he should have been playing rugby with his son (its not against the rules) and we don't have information on how he got to the park. But walking or cycling to the park to play rugby is fine.
 
Problem is the government has to deal with a population of which the majority are sensible and understand the rules around going out to exercise and keeping away from other people, and a minority which either think the virus is a hoax or that they will go to the most crowded places to “exercise”.

In that case the easiest thing to do is just send out a general “stay at home unless you absolutely must go out” message.
 
RoyJess said:
It's not about breaking the rules, it's about putting out mix messages and not leading by example. I presume that you haven't seen the public information video that Boris put out for this weekend? I don't think Boris plea was any clearer to the public. It's a case of "Boris Say's, not as Matt do"

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No I did not see that. If it was so important to not go out over the weekend then I'm sure it would have been all over the news and there would have been a prime time broadcast/press conference.

Exercise is clearly allowed. There is no mixed messaging in that regard. If those who are working during the week would like to exercise when it is light outside during the days at weekends then in my opinion there is nothing wrong with that.
 
Excellent, excellent news; scientists have now been able to confirm that the new variant discovered in the UK does not affect the efficacy of the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccines.

Hopefully this bodes well for protection against the other new variants.
 
Matt N said:
Excellent, excellent news; scientists have now been able to confirm that the new variant discovered in the UK does not affect the efficacy of the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccines.

Hopefully this bodes well for protection against the other new variants.
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Do you have a link to this? Not seen this news myself and would like a read...
 
GaryH said:
Problem is the government has to deal with a population of which the majority are sensible and understand the rules around going out to exercise and keeping away from other people, and a minority which either think the virus is a hoax or that they will go to the most crowded places to “exercise”.
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I think you're being generous there tbh. I'd say there's more than a minority of idiots in this country. In fact, it seems like most the population don't give one to me
 
Many of the people that voted Conservative in the last election (29% of the adult population) are the biggest Covid Deniers and Lockdown Resistance Advocates. That is the problem when you whip up populism and theories that big powers are constantly conspiring against you.
 
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