Coronavirus

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Coronavirus - The Poll

  1. Not had test

    48.4%
  2. Tested negative

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  3. Tested positive

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  1. GaryH

    GaryH TowersStreet Member

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    Nope. Well not that I am aware of!! I’m kinda glad I had some response though and so quickly after having the jab (jab at 11:30am symptoms at midnight) as it shows my immune system is working well!
     
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  2. Dave

    Dave TS Founding Member

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    If the rumours at work about supply in April are true we will finish the adult population for dose 1 by June, dose 2 will be a bit later. We haven’t actually come anywhere close to full capacity from a needles in arm perspective, supply has been the limiting factor.

    We could easily get to 1 million doses a day if we had the vaccine.
     
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  3. GaryH

    GaryH TowersStreet Member

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    Nothing to worry about honest. You hardly fee the jab and most people I know, me included had very few side effects except a sore arm for a day or two. You’ll be fine.
     
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  4. BigT

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    It was 100% caused by people bringing the virus back from holidays and then children returning to school with it from their trips on the COVID tubes.(aeroplanes)
    There was many many documented cases which led up to the lockdown in November.
    The Kent variant wasn’t even detected until the end of November/ beginning of December.
     
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    Interesting. Based on this, could it be assumed that people who haven't had COVID are more likely to have a reaction to dose two?
     
  6. Matt N

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    My mum had COVID in April 2020, and had no side effects with either dose of the Pfizer vaccine besides a slightly sore arm.

    I should hopefully be getting my own first dose of the Pfizer vaccine within the next couple of weeks, so I’ll be intrigued to see whether I have any side effects, as I almost certainly had asymptomatic COVID when my mum had it back in April.
     
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    GaryH TowersStreet Member

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    If you Google it there are a lot of news and scientific articles which suggest that yes people do tend to get a bigger reaction to dose 2 of the Pfizer vaccine. I do wonder if leaving it over 21 days as recommended increases these side effects....
     
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    Do you both mind if I ask which type you got? (Astra Zenica or Pfizer)
     
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    The nurses I work with have been saying exactly this; if you react badly to the first dose it's a really good indicator you had covid, whether you knew about it or not. Apparently it's much more of a pronounced reaction to Cambridge vaccine.
     
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    The Pfizer.

    You'll be fine with your first dose. I was very nervous with the first dose. However it's over in a few seconds and you're in/out pretty quickly. The staff who administered my doses were great too so honestly you'll be fine.
     
  11. Dave

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    The side effect fear does amuse me a little. I imagine everyone here takes a paracetamol when they feel ill. Paracetamol is a strong drug and after a few days causes rebound headaches, but folk still take them (often with alcohol yet paracetamol stressed the liver as does alcohol). Ibuprofen is nephrotoxic so damages your kidneys with prolonged use but folk chug those down too. Then we get to antibiotics which destroy good bacterial colonies causing all sorts of problems.

    No drug lacks consequence, and don’t let the herbal remedy brigade fool you, the herbal remedies that actually do something also cause side effects, fact is if you are potent enough to impact biology for therapeutic benefits you can cause a side effect.
     
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  12. Benzin

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    Had the AZ on Friday and felt awful all of Saturday.

    Guessing that as my former housemate had it at some point must've got it off him but wasn't affected much by it.

    Such is life. Roll on June.
     
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    As Tim Minchin said, there is a word for alternative medicine that works, medicine.
     
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    Had my text today, and I'm booked in for Saturday afternoon. I am so ready for the almighty nation wide party in June.
     
  15. Dave

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    The Kent variant started circulating in September. There are documented cases of cross border transmission (I mean it would be weird if there wasn’t) but to label holidays as the cause of the October spike is wrong. Fact is the virus was still circulating throughout the summer and did what all respiratory virus’s do as the weather turns colder.... spreads easier. If the uk had closed its borders last year in the summer we would still have had the October spike as we never suppressed the virus domestically like other countries (New Zealand, Australia etc) so travel had a negligible impact. Banning travel stops you importing the virus in the first place, but once you have it endemic in your country shutting the borders is really just closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.

    The ban on travel is needed now because of the variants showing some level of vaccine escape, until we know more about that we have to keep the borders closed.
     
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    Had mine yesterday, stunning organisation at the local cathedral, feel a bit crap today, but hey, self employed duvet day.
    Shame the coasters aren't open.
     
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    Does anybody else find this suspension of the AstraZeneca vaccine in loads of EU countries baffling? Germany and France are the latest to do so after concerns over blood clots were first raised in Denmark.

    The UK medicines regulator and the WHO have said it is safe with the incidence rate of blood clots actually lower than the typical number expected in the general population. Even the EMA have said this, which makes the position even more bizarre (EMA report 30 events in 5 million so far, around 1-2 per 1000 is typical baseline).

    It is of course right to investigate any concerns and take them seriously, but this feels like it's completely out of proportion and going to set the EU's vaccination programme back even further. After the nonsense France and Germany put out about the AZ vaccine being "quasi-ineffective" in over-65s it feels like they have a vendetta against this particular vaccine.

    These claims, and in particular, the way they are presented to the public, serve only to increase vaccine hesitancy and prolong the pandemic in Europe. I find it incredibly depressing watching our neighbours making a complete hash of it.
     
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    I don’t find it strange at all it’s all about Brexit and this vaccine being been perceived as a British vaccine.
    The EU is behaving like a petulant child but in the end they are cutting off their nose to spite their face, the UK will in all likelihood be fully vaccinated and fully open and trading before even 50% of Europeans are vaccinated at this rate.
    EU holiday travel from the UK will hopefully be banned until at least September (looking at the latest virus figures coming out of Germany and other EU states support this) so they won’t get our coin either.
     
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    Tom TowersStreet Member

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    Politicians trying to recover face and deflect as usual.
     
  20. D4n

    D4n TowersStreet Member

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    A decision that is only going to further reduce uptake of the vaccine, sadly.

    I hope the UK doesn't make the decision to suspend the rollout just because other nations are doing so.
     
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