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I did say it was a hypothetical question and I didn't intend on flying because I had an indoor drone that I could use if I got really desperate and plenty of other projects to keep me occupied, but thanks for taking the time to answer anyway.
MattyH
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There was something on the BBC which might help, the situation there was a fishing lake but the idea is minimising travel, so while you may be able to be outdoors, over 2 meters apart etc, the problem is that by making a journey to and from the flying area you might be putting extra strain on the emergency services, for example if you have a Road Traffic Collision while you're out and about.
Yeah I saw that @MattyH, that was one of these self appointed experts that the BBC wheel in once in a while so it was purely his opinion, what they should have done was asked Boris or someone in a Government about it, then you have a concrete answer on the subject, at the moment there is too much grey area in things, pluk said walking down a field is not exercise because what you do at the other end is not, someone else might consider it is and your activity at the other end may not be a factor so long as you comply with the two meter / no more than 2 people rule. There is also the mental health elephant in the room, if you think people are going to sit indoors for 12 weeks without going out, think again, people who are not used to being indoors will have cabin fever after just a few days.
Trouble is the boomers and kids are just saying frak this and carrying on as normal, and when the Police start dishing out fines and hauling people away, the goodwill they have been extended by them will disappear in an instant and if they do nothing, the goodwill they've been extended by the people who are doing as they are told will evaporate too.
I still say the previous guidance was best and this present half and half lockdown won't work, at some point you've got to let people take responsibility for their own actions, those that don't want to take the risk will stay indoors (I did, I didn't need to be under curfew), and those that don't care will go out and carry on as normal, like they still are now, and if they die from it, it'll be there own fault - as for them passing it around, yup they will, but they'll only pass it on to other people who have, too, decided to risk going outside. If someone is stupid enough to let their partner go out while they stay in and do the right thing, then their partner obviously doesn't care too much for them, and maybe they should be asking why they are putting them at risk.
Well that was far longer than what I wanted to type, but you get the point, I understand and respect why we are in lockdown, but it isn't stopping the people who couldn't care less from doing what they were doing three days ago. We need a full lockdown, or we need to just let people decide for themselves, as I said previously, people will start taking the threat seriously when their piers start dying.
Trouble is the boomers and kids are just saying frak this and carrying on as normal, and when the Police start dishing out fines and hauling people away, the goodwill they have been extended by them will disappear in an instant and if they do nothing, the goodwill they've been extended by the people who are doing as they are told will evaporate too.
I still say the previous guidance was best and this present half and half lockdown won't work, at some point you've got to let people take responsibility for their own actions, those that don't want to take the risk will stay indoors (I did, I didn't need to be under curfew), and those that don't care will go out and carry on as normal, like they still are now, and if they die from it, it'll be there own fault - as for them passing it around, yup they will, but they'll only pass it on to other people who have, too, decided to risk going outside. If someone is stupid enough to let their partner go out while they stay in and do the right thing, then their partner obviously doesn't care too much for them, and maybe they should be asking why they are putting them at risk.
Well that was far longer than what I wanted to type, but you get the point, I understand and respect why we are in lockdown, but it isn't stopping the people who couldn't care less from doing what they were doing three days ago. We need a full lockdown, or we need to just let people decide for themselves, as I said previously, people will start taking the threat seriously when their piers start dying.
pluk
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Hypothetical don't do it then!
I think realistically the advice being given in terms of going out once per day is largely a town and city concern; if you live in the middle of nowhere and spend your day in a field alone flying a kite or whatever who is going to know or care? People in built up areas create an issue of space to enable effectively social distance just by going out for a walk.
But that message is obviously too mixed, for clarity it's far better to all be told to do the same, and for us all to then do it...
I was trimming my hedge today (rear garden) and the neighbour asked me if I had heard what happened at our local Tesco?
He said that a guy had a brought in a big trolley and it was filled up to the brim with toilet rolls, soaps and hand gels. A customer started mouthing off to him, accusing him of being selfish and that he should think of others, as he was stopping people that needed these items from buying them. He went on to say, are you going to continue with that lot. The guy with the full trolley asked the other guy have he finished. The other guy said "yes".
Also, if you are using your car, at some point you will need to fill up with petrol, you'll be touching the petrol pump which has been handled by many other people previous to you, then you go inside a confine shop to pay.
He said that a guy had a brought in a big trolley and it was filled up to the brim with toilet rolls, soaps and hand gels. A customer started mouthing off to him, accusing him of being selfish and that he should think of others, as he was stopping people that needed these items from buying them. He went on to say, are you going to continue with that lot. The guy with the full trolley asked the other guy have he finished. The other guy said "yes".
Good said the guy with the trolley, may I continue so that I can continue with my work and fill up the shelves with this stock. The guy with the trolley was working for Tesco filling replenishing the shelves, whether this was a true story or my neighbour was pulling my leg, I can't say, but sounds about right for around here.
Also, if you are using your car, at some point you will need to fill up with petrol, you'll be touching the petrol pump which has been handled by many other people previous to you, then you go inside a confine shop to pay.
Where do you get your jokes Roy? I see the same ones posted on facebook about a day or two before you post them
The photo memes are doing there rounds on social media.
With regards to the supermarket one in my previous post, that was genuinely came from my neighbour today when I was trimming the hedge. If this one was a joke, well I did fall for it
Not seen that one on FB
pluk
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Further clarity from your question from this article...
"Under new powers issued in the wake of the spread of coronavirus, police are able to explain to people why they should not be out but if they do not listen to advice they would then be given a fine, the National Police Chiefs' Council said.
However, fines will not be issued until Parliament passes the emergency legislation - which should be by the end of Thursday"
So as of right now no specific power exists to enforce the he restrictions. The 'Ways and Means' act of 2020 will be used in the meantime I'm sure!
Further clarity from your question from this article...
"Under new powers issued in the wake of the spread of coronavirus, police are able to explain to people why they should not be out but if they do not listen to advice they would then be given a fine, the National Police Chiefs' Council said.
However, fines will not be issued until Parliament passes the emergency legislation - which should be by the end of Thursday"
So as of right now no specific power exists to enforce the he restrictions. The 'Ways and Means' act of 2020 will be used in the meantime I'm sure!
DiogoJ42
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An amusing tale from lockdown (been stuck at home a couple of weeks now due to no work, partner is a "key worker", so very little has changed in this house over the last few days) to lighten the mood a tiny bit:
Being on lockdown with my ex-housemate stuck here (who in all honesty is pretty much an honoury member of my household anyway, may as well be a brother etc. etc.) makes perfect training for parenting a teenager.
I'm always having to pick up after him. Like earlier he had a shower, and I was all:
"RIGHT! .... Tidy up all the tangle of AV cables that accumulate around the TV and amp when he is plugged in, wash up all the plates, glasses, mugs around his sofa, bin all the food wrappers and random torn up bits of rizla etc, empty the ash trays, tidy the blankets/cushions/sofa etc, put the booze back in the kitchen cubboard, wash up, clean uo, feed the rats, have a peacefull fag on the balcony watching the world go by, put the kettle on, roll up, have a cup of tea, a ... erm, "something to smoke", and the mini Megadrive waiting for him when he gets out of the shower in fifteen minutes time....
..... Aaaannnnnnddddd ....... GO!"
Some advice for staying sane in lockdown:
Doesn't matter how well you get on with someone, even your partner, if you are cooped up with them long term, it's only a matter of time before you are sick of the sight of them. Just think about those big road trips we do round Europe; You have a great time, but by the time you get home you are quite happy to see the back of that car and everyone in it for a week or two. Admit it.
I've already had a serious word with matey and Mrs and told them straight that tensions will flare. It's inevitable. I appologiesed in advance for any techyness I may snap at them in the comming weeks. I made sure to say that It's not to be taken personally, as I won't take it personally if they snap at me.
When you are trapped in a confined space with someone, and little to no personal space, sometimes the best thing you can do is vent it out, or, more importantly, let the other person vent it out. Try not to be provoked in to an argument. Give them as much space as you can for a bit, go do some house work or something. Have a cig in the garden. Do what you've got to do to take ten minutes to chill!
... I know this is easier said than done. But remember: that person sitting on the other side of the room, playing some annoying beeping game on their phone? That you've lived with peacfully enough up to now? ... That you want to stab through the face with a biro reallly hard at this precise moment? They probably feel exactly the same way about YOU right now!
Stay calm dudes. Stay sane. Stay healthy in both body and mind.
Live long and prosper.
Being on lockdown with my ex-housemate stuck here (who in all honesty is pretty much an honoury member of my household anyway, may as well be a brother etc. etc.) makes perfect training for parenting a teenager.
I'm always having to pick up after him. Like earlier he had a shower, and I was all:
"RIGHT! .... Tidy up all the tangle of AV cables that accumulate around the TV and amp when he is plugged in, wash up all the plates, glasses, mugs around his sofa, bin all the food wrappers and random torn up bits of rizla etc, empty the ash trays, tidy the blankets/cushions/sofa etc, put the booze back in the kitchen cubboard, wash up, clean uo, feed the rats, have a peacefull fag on the balcony watching the world go by, put the kettle on, roll up, have a cup of tea, a ... erm, "something to smoke", and the mini Megadrive waiting for him when he gets out of the shower in fifteen minutes time....
..... Aaaannnnnnddddd ....... GO!"
Some advice for staying sane in lockdown:
Doesn't matter how well you get on with someone, even your partner, if you are cooped up with them long term, it's only a matter of time before you are sick of the sight of them. Just think about those big road trips we do round Europe; You have a great time, but by the time you get home you are quite happy to see the back of that car and everyone in it for a week or two. Admit it.
I've already had a serious word with matey and Mrs and told them straight that tensions will flare. It's inevitable. I appologiesed in advance for any techyness I may snap at them in the comming weeks. I made sure to say that It's not to be taken personally, as I won't take it personally if they snap at me.
When you are trapped in a confined space with someone, and little to no personal space, sometimes the best thing you can do is vent it out, or, more importantly, let the other person vent it out. Try not to be provoked in to an argument. Give them as much space as you can for a bit, go do some house work or something. Have a cig in the garden. Do what you've got to do to take ten minutes to chill!
... I know this is easier said than done. But remember: that person sitting on the other side of the room, playing some annoying beeping game on their phone? That you've lived with peacfully enough up to now? ... That you want to stab through the face with a biro reallly hard at this precise moment? They probably feel exactly the same way about YOU right now!
Stay calm dudes. Stay sane. Stay healthy in both body and mind.
Live long and prosper.
Yep, just like having teenage kids around the home
Nope, still love the sight of my wife Jess after all these years, we will never be sick of each other
Loraine Kelly was saying on TV this morning, if you are continuing life as normal, then you are not doing the isolation thing right. How wrong is she, Jess and I normally spend 6 out of 7 days at home together, most of my time is taken up caring and keeping the home and car in good order. So we are pretty much use to this isolation thing. The only difference is that we can't just leave the home to pick up something from the shop or get our hair cut. I tell you now, I was due for a hair cut just after we went into self isolation, my hair is thick and grows very quick, so I dread to think how much of a Bouffant of a mullet that I will have once this is all over, plus my hair will be showing it true colour.
Oh by the way, has anyone manage to purchase some loo roll yet? We've not been able to get any over the past 3 weeks or so, fortunately we have enough to keep us going for a little while. But am a little worried for when we do eventually run out.
RicketyCricket
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I think a lot of people saw what was happening in Italy weeks ago and prepared for a lockdown at a stage when most people were carrying on joking that's it's 'just a bit of a cold'.
If I was in my 70's and retired I'd have probably stocked up a bit too so I'm not putting myself at risk visiting a supermarket at the peak of the virus.
But mainly it's because people are selfish morons.
RicketyCricket
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Also the stockpiling thing is a bit of a myth. All the Supermarkets have put strict rules in place over the last 2-3 weeks where customers are limited to 2 packs of bog roll and I've seen them enforcing this.
The problem is that no one saw this coming. Footfall in stores has been higher than Christmas but the stock levels are in line with an average March. The bog roll is put on the shelves, the store opens at 6am, then it's sold out within a couple of hours.
The problem is that no one saw this coming. Footfall in stores has been higher than Christmas but the stock levels are in line with an average March. The bog roll is put on the shelves, the store opens at 6am, then it's sold out within a couple of hours.
USLShadow
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Wait when did Diogo get a heart?!An amusing tale from lockdown (been stuck at home a couple of weeks now due to no work, partner is a "key worker", so very little has changed in this house over the last few days) to lighten the mood a tiny bit:
Being on lockdown with my ex-housemate stuck here (who in all honesty is pretty much an honoury member of my household anyway, may as well be a brother etc. etc.) makes perfect training for parenting a teenager.
I'm always having to pick up after him. Like earlier he had a shower, and I was all:
"RIGHT! .... Tidy up all the tangle of AV cables that accumulate around the TV and amp when he is plugged in, wash up all the plates, glasses, mugs around his sofa, bin all the food wrappers and random torn up bits of rizla etc, empty the ash trays, tidy the blankets/cushions/sofa etc, put the booze back in the kitchen cubboard, wash up, clean uo, feed the rats, have a peacefull fag on the balcony watching the world go by, put the kettle on, roll up, have a cup of tea, a ... erm, "something to smoke", and the mini Megadrive waiting for him when he gets out of the shower in fifteen minutes time....
..... Aaaannnnnnddddd ....... GO!"
Some advice for staying sane in lockdown:
Doesn't matter how well you get on with someone, even your partner, if you are cooped up with them long term, it's only a matter of time before you are sick of the sight of them. Just think about those big road trips we do round Europe; You have a great time, but by the time you get home you are quite happy to see the back of that car and everyone in it for a week or two. Admit it.
I've already had a serious word with matey and Mrs and told them straight that tensions will flare. It's inevitable. I appologiesed in advance for any techyness I may snap at them in the comming weeks. I made sure to say that It's not to be taken personally, as I won't take it personally if they snap at me.
When you are trapped in a confined space with someone, and little to no personal space, sometimes the best thing you can do is vent it out, or, more importantly, let the other person vent it out. Try not to be provoked in to an argument. Give them as much space as you can for a bit, go do some house work or something. Have a cig in the garden. Do what you've got to do to take ten minutes to chill!
... I know this is easier said than done. But remember: that person sitting on the other side of the room, playing some annoying beeping game on their phone? That you've lived with peacfully enough up to now? ... That you want to stab through the face with a biro reallly hard at this precise moment? They probably feel exactly the same way about YOU right now!
Stay calm dudes. Stay sane. Stay healthy in both body and mind.
Live long and prosper.
Kidding, this is very sound advice, remember your loved ones are loved, even if you want to stab them 37 times in the chest and eat there hands.
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