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Do you have a source for that claim?Many of the people that voted Conservative in the last election (29% of the adult population) are the biggest Covid Deniers and Lockdown Resistance Advocates.
Do you have a source for that claim?Many of the people that voted Conservative in the last election (29% of the adult population) are the biggest Covid Deniers and Lockdown Resistance Advocates.
Just reading the Twitter feed of an epidemiologist who attended a scientific meeting today discussing the new South African variant. Somewhat concerning in that they found 21 out of 44 serum samples of people with antibodies to the first Covid variant did not respond to the new S African variant.
This means potentially a high number of people infected first time around or vaccinated worth a vaccine based on the first variants (as current ones are) could catch this S African variant of the virus. More studies are underway.
Link to feed and video of the meeting here :
Just reading the Twitter feed of an epidemiologist who attended a scientific meeting today discussing the new South African variant. Somewhat concerning in that they found 21 out of 44 serum samples of people with antibodies to the first Covid variant did not respond to the new S African variant.
This means potentially a high number of people infected first time around or vaccinated worth a vaccine based on the first variants (as current ones are) could catch this S African variant of the virus. More studies are underway.
Link to feed and video of the meeting here :
I think the vaccine could very well help us move towards just “living with it” without any restrictions in place, and it wouldn’t surprise me if this did cause a mutation in the virus to help it survive and become endemic in the population, like the flu or the common cold. Then, it’ll literally just be one of those common place winter diseases that comes and goes every year, and a roster of vulnerable people get vaccinated against.^^ While previous mutations have been reported, there is more emphasis on the more recent ones due to the amount of mutations to some of the key proteins.
Generally speaking the more mutations a virus undertakes, the less lethal it (usually) becomes. Hopefully we will reach a point where the virus may be even more transmittable, but where the mortality rate drops to that similar to the flu and we just end up living with the virus each year as normal.
^^ While previous mutations have been reported, there is more emphasis on the more recent ones due to the amount of mutations to some of the key proteins.
Generally speaking the more mutations a virus undertakes, the less lethal it (usually) becomes. Hopefully we will reach a point where the virus may be even more transmittable, but where the mortality rate drops to that similar to the flu and we just end up living with the virus each year as normal.
I know that this is not necessarily hard proof, but a pretty promising development nonetheless! And given that Israel has vaccinated 25% of its population and already seen a huge, huge drop in COVID cases, I wouldn’t say that it’s an outlandish theory at all; I think it’s highly probable based on this data!
Apparently it’s suspected that the Pfizer vaccine might stop transmission as well as severe disease, so that’s promising, if nothing else. I don’t think it’s necessarily infections the government is worried about, more the deaths and hospitalisations that those infections can lead to in certain groups, which is why so much is being placed upon vaccinating the vulnerable.25% inoculation rate wouldn’t prevent the infection rate from increasing anyway you need 70% really. The more curious information scientists will be looking at is the age profile of the infections and whether a significant number of infections have occurred in vaccinated people.
Just reading the Twitter feed of an epidemiologist who attended a scientific meeting today discussing the new South African variant. Somewhat concerning in that they found 21 out of 44 serum samples of people with antibodies to the first Covid variant did not respond to the new S African variant.
This means potentially a high number of people infected first time around or vaccinated worth a vaccine based on the first variants (as current ones are) could catch this S African variant of the virus. More studies are underway.
Link to feed and video of the meeting here :
Also, a U.K. study has found that there is a “modest” reduction in the efficacy of the mRNA vaccine against the B117 variant which is the “new U.K.” variant the press keep referring to. Feed:
With the Brazil variant as well, it may be a case that everyone has a first dose vaccine and the second dose will have to be re engineered to protect against these new variants. Who knows!
However, it should be noted that even if South Africa’s variant does reduce efficacy, Boris is apparently preparing to pass legislation that allows modified vaccines to be approved more quickly, so we’re not necessarily back to square one... I hope.The preprint of the UK variant study suggests vaccine efficacy is maintained with Pfizer which is good.
The news out of South Africa is less positive, I think we might be at or close to seeing vaccine escape here.
However, it should be noted that even if South Africa’s variant does reduce efficacy, Boris is apparently preparing to pass legislation that allows modified vaccines to be approved more quickly, so we’re not necessarily back to square one... I hope.
The preprint of the UK variant study suggests vaccine efficacy is maintained with Pfizer which is good.
The news out of South Africa is less positive, I think we might be at or close to seeing vaccine escape here.