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London Entertainment Resort: All Discussion

Who in their right mind is going to invest billions into a project like this in these dire financial times? Not to forget into a Theme Park industry that has really struggled in the UK of late too.

I seriously wish the story would go away now. 8 years on and there still not a brick that has been put in place. The transports links and road infrastructure hasn't changed and its back to public consultation.

It's an absolute non starter. More chance of Shawn at TPW starting up his own park.
 
Themeparksandy1981 said:
I bet we get to 100 pages on this and then may have planning permission by then.
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Ah definitely, I think in the run up to panto season we can make our own panto with this thread.
99.9% of forum members - “this will never get built”
Matt N - “oh yes it is”
99.9% of forum members “Oh no it won’t”
Matt N - “oh yes it is”
99.9% of forum members “Oh no it won’t”
Matt N - “oh yes it is”

I think before Christmas is over and out we can get 40 pages purely just like that.
 
I just clear up it wasn’t a ribbing or taking the mick so to speak just having a laugh and sort of summing up the conversation so far for who ever don’t want to read the last 10 pages or so.
 
Or if we’re talking hypothetically; if the project gets built (as I say, this is entirely hypothetical), then what sort of attractions do you think we might see?

From looking at the concepts, the coaster detailed in The Kingdom maybe looks something like a Mack spinner, and I do remember seeing a wooden coaster with a loop in it in one of the previous concepts, so maybe an RMC? I also remember a previous concept for The Jungle showing a rapids ride, so I’d say that would be a safe bet. There definitely looks to be some sort of coaster in Spaceport, but I can’t quite put my finger on what sort. Looks kind of like Tron to me, but I don’t know whether it’s the sci-fi dome fooling me.

What do you guys reckon?
 
Well, in a very promising step for the project, the environmental report has now been released! And buckle up, because this post could be very long, as there’s quite a lot to cover! Here’s an article from SouthParks about the new development: https://www.southparks.co.uk/2020/06/24/london-resort-submit-scoping-report/

Particular things of note include:
  • Any roller coasters will not exceed 40m (131.3ft) in height. There goes my hopes for a hyper, but hey ho; 40m still isn’t an insignificant height to play with by any means, especially for a UK park!
  • The park will clearly have some pretty breathtaking theming, as they’ve said that any “mountains” (?!) will not exceed 60m (196.8ft) in height and buildings will not exceed 32m (105.1ft).
  • The Resort will be formed of two gates; the first will open in 2024 and the second in 2029.
  • Both gates will feature a mix of IP attractions and bespoke themes, and LRCH have asked for flexibility within the Development Consent Order to allow them to change and add rides as time goes on.
  • It is estimated that the Resort will attract 6.5 million guests per year with gate one, and 12.5 million once gate two is open. In terms of daily figures, they’re hoping for figures ranging between 7,000 and 53,000 with an average of 26,000 by 2029. It is only expected to exceed 35,000 on 54 days of the year. To me, this sounds like a far more plausible figure than the 15 million originally being thrown around.
  • The Resort will feature 4 hotels, with a total of 3550 rooms being provided. They will be located between the two gates, with one possibly being integrated into gate one. The accommodation will be wide-ranging in terms of demographic, and some hotels will be IP-themed. LRCH plans for 2500 of the hotel rooms to open with gate one and a further 1050 to open with gate two.
  • The entertainment district will contain “facilities for both business and leisure purposes”. A “Conferention Centre” (apparently a combo of a conference centre and a convention centre) will be included, with capacity for up to 3,000 seated visitors; it will apparently be used for things such as concerts, live TV broadcasts, exhibitions and conventions. They’re also building an eSports arena as well as theatres showcasing “West End-quality productions”.
  • The Resort will have 10,000 car parking spaces in total, with 7,500 at the Resort itself and 2,500 in Tilbury on the opposite bank of the River Thames, from which guests will take a river taxi to the Resort. There will be 4 multi-storey car parks, with each containing up to 10 decks.
  • Various different means of transport to the Resort are being considered. As well as a dedicated Resort access road for guests travelling by car, there will be various pedestrian and cycle routes built in the local area as well as a 3.1km people mover route between a proposed “Resort travel interchange” next to Ebbsfleet International Station and a ferry terminal on Ebbsfleet Peninsula. This route will be served by shuttle buses carrying 100-150 people each.
  • In a similar style to Disney, 500 apartments are also being built for Resort staff to use. These will be shared accommodation with 4-6 bedrooms, as well as shared kitchen & lounge facilities.
Well, that’s just about everything notable I could find in the article!

Isn’t this exciting? The pace of the project really seems to have picked up lately, and this is probably the most specific look we’ve had so far!
 
Matt N said:
Various different means of transport to the Resort are being considered. As well as a dedicated Resort access road for guests travelling by car, there will be various pedestrian and cycle routes built in the local area as well as a 3.1km people mover route between a proposed “Resort travel interchange” next to Ebbsfleet International Station and a ferry terminal on Ebbsfleet Peninsula. This route will be served by shuttle buses carrying 100-150 people each.
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I like this.
Matt N said:
The Resort will have 10,000 car parking spaces in total, with 7,500 at the Resort itself and 2,500 in Tilbury on the opposite bank of the River Thames, from which guests will take a river taxi to the Resort. There will be 4 multi-storey car parks, with each containing up to 10 decks
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I don't like this.

Am I excited? I'll wait until there's roller coaster track on site first. :p
 
Regardless of your level of optimism for this project, one thing you cannot deny is that this is actual concrete progress. This is not just a slight rejig of the schmultzy press releases that have been released periodically since 2012. This is an actual step for the project.
 
Well, no - it's still just hypothetical at this stage. Putting a report together doesn't make them any more likely to be able to actually deliver on their plans.

What they're proposing sounds great but it did 8 years ago too. Very little has actually happened in that time.
 
Matt N said:
Regardless of your level of optimism for this project, one thing you cannot deny is that this is actual concrete progress. This is not just a slight rejig of the schmultzy press releases that have been released periodically since 2012. This is an actual step for the project.
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You're right, and thanks for keeping us updated! Personally though I'm sceptical about any project which hasn't started construction. I remember reading Theme Park Review and Alvey saying the Polercoaster thing was "fully funded" and definitely happening. Can't be disappointed about it if you didn't expect it to get built in the first place ;)
 
So by 2024 they expect to have a theme park pulling in the same number of guests as Hong Kong Disney Land and effectively be the 2nd most visited theme park in Europe?

This is why they are not getting investors, the numbers just don’t stack up.
 
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