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Scarefest 2024

It is possible that's also the case, the two don't have to be mutually exclusive, but that would fly against the more recent interviews that Alton Towers management have had with vloggers one on one, or even inviting a vlogger to take over a rollercoaster for a day.

They don't need to entice the audiences, or membership, of Attraction Source or theme park vloggers, they've already got them tied up.
And that creators conference thing they held a few weeks ago.
 
I think it’s more that Towers seem to be distancing themselves from fan sites and vlogger types. They might do their own behind the scenes but I think the primary reason is they just want to keep fan sites at arms length.
But Towers have engaged with Social Media/Vloggers more recently, even going as far as Bianca appearing on Theme Park Worldwide, which is a far more controversial ‘brand’ than TowersTimes has been in recent years. Not to mention the enthusiast bidding event there was recently.

Unless perspective has changed under new management recently?
 
Or maybe Towers/Merlin are fed up of negative comments from enthusiasts over the course of the year and are probably saying, "to hell with them!" 🤪
It’s not the comments from us that are the problem, it’s the tens of hundreds of comments from members of the public on Facebook and Twitter on every post Towers make complaining about the same things we’re mentioning here.
 
It’s not the comments from us that are the problem, it’s the tens of hundreds of comments from members of the public on Facebook and Twitter on every post Towers make complaining about the same things we’re mentioning here.
Aye, but given how we were the first to point out the negative views first before everyone else followed through but nonetheless they'll lump everyone together no matter if they are enthusiasts or not.
 
Completely agree with Goose, wouldn’t be at all surprised to see ‘behind the scenes Scarefest tours’ or similar unveiled by Towers in the coming weeks for a price that most of us would consider excessive but will probably sell out.
 
The TowersTimes/Attraction Source events are paid for, not free events for fans. I don't think it's anything to do with distancing from fan sites. Towers hardly engage with fan sites in an official capacity anyway.

If anything, it's either poor customer service (Towers have now lost £££s for an event whereas Thorpe will be gaining that) or they do genuinely not have the capacity to host such events as they once used to. Given the cuts we've seen, that would not be surprising. Hopefully the corporate customers are getting better treatment.
 
Thought this is interesting, Towers Times / Attraction Source have been unable to negotiate the event they want to put on at Alton Towers (mainly as they won’t offer a behind the scenes) so it’s moving to Thorpe Park.
Okay when and how can I book this?
 
Is it me, or is that Vampurr Towers' answer to the Disney character Stitch? Given how popular Stitch has become of late then it seems that they see a market in cute stumpy mischievous creatures and that's why they've gone for it.
 
TPWW have suggested the boat ride wont be used which if true is shocking.
I have a feeling that the boat ride is potentially at or coming up to end of life and may have been since it turned into the dungeons.

I understand it ran on timeslots so wasn't operational all day long as a ride for a very long time. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dungeons was the park's way of running the boat ride system conservatively until they had bigger plans for the area.

It ran every hour or so to get through a set amount of guests who booked onto the Dungeons on each timeslot.

Truth be told, it likely needed to have water in the trough the whole time so not sure if that had an impact.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I have a feeling that the boat ride is potentially at or coming up to end of life and may have been since it turned into the dungeons.

I understand it ran on timeslots so wasn't operational all day long as a ride for a very long time. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dungeons was the park's way of running the boat ride system conservatively until they had bigger plans for the area.

It ran every hour or so to get through a set amount of guests who booked onto the Dungeons on each timeslot.

Truth be told, it likely needed to have water in the trough the whole time so not sure if that had an impact.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Black River wasn’t ’ran conservatively’ but it was ran at a reduced capacity to fit with the flow of the attraction. The max amount of people in each scene was 27 people on a 7:30 minute flow. Which came to a whopping 214pph throughput, if they ran anymore than 3 boats on the ride system it would have caused a significant bottleneck in the ‘Wise One’ off-load show (which was designed to be rolling continuously), and fun fact had two modes.

One was with just the talking head playing the role of ‘The Wise One’ and another mode which involved an actor interacting as The Wise One and the projection head having a conversation. This version rarely ran apart from very brief periods in 2019 and 2022.
 
I don't know for sure but I suspect the time slots were purely to group people together a bit better, due to how few people were going through. It doesn't really make sense to run continuously for just a couple of people at a time.

The ride system is incredibly simple and durable, I'd be surprised if there's anything serious wrong with it
 
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