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[The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation
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BigT
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Re: Secret Weapon 7 Discussion Continued
Well I don't believe your source, Alton are hardly going to admit that there is a trick track are they and as for not seeing any evidence of it who says its on site yet!
I think there will be a trick track and the layout of the pit supports this, oh and for the final time THIS RIDE IS NOT A EUROFIGHTER!
Well I don't believe your source, Alton are hardly going to admit that there is a trick track are they and as for not seeing any evidence of it who says its on site yet!
I think there will be a trick track and the layout of the pit supports this, oh and for the final time THIS RIDE IS NOT A EUROFIGHTER!
DiogoJ42
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But if you look at B&Ms, the train is what defines their different coaster types. It could be argued that a floorless is just a stand up with different trains. Or a flyer is an invert with different trains.
If the trains turn out to be something new enough, it's fair to class this as a new ride type.
But if you look at B&Ms, the train is what defines their different coaster types. It could be argued that a floorless is just a stand up with different trains. Or a flyer is an invert with different trains.
If the trains turn out to be something new enough, it's fair to class this as a new ride type.
James
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So far SW7 has been defined as the 'same ride type' as SAW at Thorpe Park. So by all means it is a Eurofighter at present. However it could easily become a new ride type.
If the trains are designed differently (which is inevitable) then I can see this simply being the next generation of Eurofighters, or the new generation - depends which wording you prefer.
So far SW7 has been defined as the 'same ride type' as SAW at Thorpe Park. So by all means it is a Eurofighter at present. However it could easily become a new ride type.
If the trains are designed differently (which is inevitable) then I can see this simply being the next generation of Eurofighters, or the new generation - depends which wording you prefer.
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Re: let's see who is more disappointed when they are wrong, you or I.
What evidence is there to support trick track? Sorry but I'm almost positive we will see none, and that's ok.
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BigT said:
Re: let's see who is more disappointed when they are wrong, you or I.
What evidence is there to support trick track? Sorry but I'm almost positive we will see none, and that's ok.
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DiogoJ42
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Th13teen was discribed as being the same ride type as No Way Out, wasn't it? IE: lightweight trains and tire drive lift. But I think we can all agree it is not the same... X:\NWO is clearly way better
I think Towers like to try to compare to something else (for noise levels?) in another Merlin park when making planing aplications. Let's be honest, the kind of people who are likely to care about noise are not going to understand "It will be a tri-rail truss section track made by an unpronouncable company you've never heard of" ... So it's easier to say "It will be a bit like Saw: The Ride."
Maybe a better example would be Furious Baco. It's pretty much a standard Intamin launch coaster, with novelty trains added. But the trains make enough difference to class it as a new ride type. SW7 uses standard Gerst. track, Just as Baco uses standard Intamin track.
It's not so much the track that defines a coaster, it's the trains.
Th13teen was discribed as being the same ride type as No Way Out, wasn't it? IE: lightweight trains and tire drive lift. But I think we can all agree it is not the same... X:\NWO is clearly way better
I think Towers like to try to compare to something else (for noise levels?) in another Merlin park when making planing aplications. Let's be honest, the kind of people who are likely to care about noise are not going to understand "It will be a tri-rail truss section track made by an unpronouncable company you've never heard of" ... So it's easier to say "It will be a bit like Saw: The Ride."
Maybe a better example would be Furious Baco. It's pretty much a standard Intamin launch coaster, with novelty trains added. But the trains make enough difference to class it as a new ride type. SW7 uses standard Gerst. track, Just as Baco uses standard Intamin track.
It's not so much the track that defines a coaster, it's the trains.
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*insert over excitable audience ooo's*
oh no, he di'int.
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DiogoJ42 said:Th13teen was discribed as being the same ride type as No Way Out, wasn't it? IE: lightweight trains and tire drive lift. But I think we can all agree it is not the same... X:\NWO is clearly way better
*insert over excitable audience ooo's*
oh no, he di'int.
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oliviamaeae
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I still believe it is going to have a world first element, and surely this tweet suggests something to do with the ride itself rather than surroundings? https://twitter.com/John_Wardley/status ... 5205607424
I still believe it is going to have a world first element, and surely this tweet suggests something to do with the ride itself rather than surroundings? https://twitter.com/John_Wardley/status ... 5205607424
thedalegough
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@John_Wardley
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djtruefitt
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Its fake, a few people have emailed John directly and he has said he has never used Twitter in his life.
Its fake, a few people have emailed John directly and he has said he has never used Twitter in his life.
BigT
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There is as much evidence to support a trick track as there is to support there not being, I give my opinions and if they are wrong then I'll hold my hand up and say so.
I think its very clever of Alton to manage to build SW7 with all the public documents that are available these days and by this stage we still don't have much of a clue to what they are actually building.
Fredward said:
There is as much evidence to support a trick track as there is to support there not being, I give my opinions and if they are wrong then I'll hold my hand up and say so.
I think its very clever of Alton to manage to build SW7 with all the public documents that are available these days and by this stage we still don't have much of a clue to what they are actually building.
Ted
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This I agree with. I was always curious as to what a B&M stand up would be like as a sitter or a floorless, then realised it's just the same but you're sitting! =P I've played RCT before and made a flying coaster in the style of a invert, I don't think it looks alot different to be honest.
Although B&M aren't the only example. Arrow once made stand ups but they were basically just sit downs with Stand Up trains, they were modified from Sit downs to stand ups.
For instance take the former Extremeroller at Worlds of Fun.
Here's it with sit down trains:
And here it is with Stand Up trains:
DiogoJ42 said:
This I agree with. I was always curious as to what a B&M stand up would be like as a sitter or a floorless, then realised it's just the same but you're sitting! =P I've played RCT before and made a flying coaster in the style of a invert, I don't think it looks alot different to be honest.
Although B&M aren't the only example. Arrow once made stand ups but they were basically just sit downs with Stand Up trains, they were modified from Sit downs to stand ups.
For instance take the former Extremeroller at Worlds of Fun.
Here's it with sit down trains:
Dave
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The reason we have stated its speculation is Towers obviously won't comment on the details of the ride, we trust the source's and at the very least it opens up discussion. I respect your conviction BigT and you are right there is nothing that excludes a trick track though it looks less likely as more of the indoor track arrives with little sign of a link to trick track on it. I myself am confident there is no trick track.
And that John Wardley twitter account is a hoax I emailed John in sept when it first came out and he clarified it wasn't him.
The reason we have stated its speculation is Towers obviously won't comment on the details of the ride, we trust the source's and at the very least it opens up discussion. I respect your conviction BigT and you are right there is nothing that excludes a trick track though it looks less likely as more of the indoor track arrives with little sign of a link to trick track on it. I myself am confident there is no trick track.
And that John Wardley twitter account is a hoax I emailed John in sept when it first came out and he clarified it wasn't him.
KingNemesis
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I can also debunk the photos, Emailed John and he said he has never used Twitter and never seen the photos
I can also debunk the photos, Emailed John and he said he has never used Twitter and never seen the photos
LordOfDarkness
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CONTRADICTING EVIDENCE ASDFGHJKL
CONTRADICTING EVIDENCE ASDFGHJKL
KingNemesis
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It is
plus the information is... sketchy.. some information is a little off
LiamC said:
It is
plus the information is... sketchy.. some information is a little off
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