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Coronavirus

Coronavirus - The Poll

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Danny said:
Even the new James Bond film has now been delayed 7 bloody months by it. What is the world coming to?!1!?1?1?!
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In fairness my work trip to Italy is on hold because if you work in the entertainment business why take the risk!
The employee will resent the company for sending them and if they do get sick (like I did on my last trip) it costs the company and can disrupt the work schedule.
Better to let this blow over, even if it means shooting next year.
 
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Thameslink Rail said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fdf5fq/we_are_a_team_of_medical_experts_following/
Does this work for you?
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Yes it does; thank you very much @Thameslink Rail!

Suspiciously, our cases here in Britain currently seem quite low in comparison to other European countries, and we've only had one death, which occurred on the Japanese cruise ship. There is of course Italy with its concerning outbreak, but even places like France and Germany are quite comfortably in triple figures. Do we think that this is because containment efforts in Britain have worked comparatively well, or do we think that Britain will simply skyrocket later than these other countries?
 
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I was just about to post that maybe I should put in another order of kegs for my Perfect Draft machine, so that at the very least I can have a nice cold pint while waiting for it to all blow over.

Curse you.

delta79 said:
I feel like sticking a sign up in the toilets at work saying

'Handwashing is for life. Not just covid19'

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This a thousand times. I could name and shame SOOOO many famous types I have seen not wash after using the loo at work over the years... but that would be unprofessional of me. (So don't ask!)
 
Matt N said:
Yes it does; thank you very much @Thameslink Rail!

Suspiciously, our cases here in Britain currently seem quite low in comparison to other European countries, and we've only had one death, which occurred on the Japanese cruise ship. There is of course Italy with its concerning outbreak, but even places like France and Germany are quite comfortably in triple figures. Do we think that this is because containment efforts in Britain have worked comparatively well, or do we think that Britain will simply skyrocket later than these other countries?
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I’d like to place a lot of faith into our NHS and the successful containment of the virus honestly. The UK and Italy reported the first case on the same day I believe, and we’re nowhere near the pandemic levels Italy is.

I think the potential for it to rapidly double or triple in the coming days is likely but I honestly don’t think we’ll see the figures the most of Western Europe has seen, more then anything else because of our cultural differences.

Interestingly enough, a large number of our cases have recovered I believe, meaning there are only around 40 active cases present. However I can’t find the source for this anymore so it’s just hearsay.


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That's a really good point re: active cases. Whenever there's a pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a disease, it's very rare for there to be widely available figures on active cases of the disease. This is actually something I mentioned to my parents over dinner earlier!
 
12 have been discharged in the UK so far.

In terms of the UK cases, unfortunately I think our containment phase will be over soon given the sharp increase in numbers today, in particular we have 5 people now with no travel history indicating community spread.

Italy had just 6 two weeks ago...... Interestingly though I read this evening all the deaths have been people aged over 65. This would explain the high death rate there.

In terms of vaccine development, this is particularly interesting and may be able to get approved quicker given its already been developed and needs just a genetic alteration to adapt it for covid 19

https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/israel-migal-covid-19-vaccine/
 
Getting a tad concerned now that if they start banning large sporting events (which they probably need to do soon for it to make a difference), 99% of my income will dry up!

But hey, at least there might be some work covering state funerals, so every cloud...
 
Matt N said:
Yes it does; thank you very much @Thameslink Rail!

Suspiciously, our cases here in Britain currently seem quite low in comparison to other European countries, and we've only had one death, which occurred on the Japanese cruise ship. There is of course Italy with its concerning outbreak, but even places like France and Germany are quite comfortably in triple figures. Do we think that this is because containment efforts in Britain have worked comparatively well, or do we think that Britain will simply skyrocket later than these other countries?
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The NHS is good at coordinating in a crisis, it’s one organisation so information sharing and coordination are better. Even in other countries with an element of universal health care it’s often delivered by multiple private companies.

Being an island always helps too.
 
Being an island could of helped if we had acted sooner, but I fear the UK will be in the same state as Italy and South Korea by the end of the month. 2,300 people currently needing a hospital bed in Korea and none are available. What is the NHS in terms of hospital beds globally? Quite low down the list I believe.

Anyway, interesting article popped up on PubMed today showing findings of the virus infecting the nervous system causing organs to shut down:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.25728

There's also concern now that the virus may cause potential damage to the male reproduction system, though this is ongoing research:

https://www.researchgate.net/public...y_and_Testis_Damage_After_2019-nCoV_Infection


What I dont understand is why is the UK waiting for more cases, almost encouraging it, putting the NHS under strain, rather than introduce extreme measures now to try and prevent that from happening? The government of Italy warned the UK yesterday to be very careful given our current relaxed stance on this.

Be interesting to see how many cases we get today..... 34 yesterday.... I reckon double that today?
 
GaryH said:
What I dont understand is why is the UK waiting for more cases, almost encouraging it, putting the NHS under strain, rather than introduce extreme measures now to try and prevent that from happening? The government of Italy warned the UK yesterday to be very careful given our current relaxed stance on this.
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What would you have them do instead?
 
Tom said:
What would you have them do instead?
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So, China controlled its spread by shutting down entire cities, and as we saw, a lot of humans rights abuses. I'm not talking about this level of control but we could

Close schools - kids are known spreaders of germs, and closing schools during the 1918 pandemic they believe helped slow the spread of the disease.

Put the message out for people to work from home where they can - discourage people to go to work if they have the option to work from home

Limit air travel to essential travel only - allow people to cancel and change holidays to end of the year/next year for no charge, discourage air travel. For travel to most affected countries, some sort of screening should be present in the airports. Granted temperate scanning doesnt catch all cases but hey, if it catches a few then surely that better given one person can go on to spread it to another 3.

Stop major events taking place, sports to be done behind closed doors, theatres encouraged to delay performances. People then encouraged to not go to restaurants, pubs, cinemas etc.

At first we can do this in affected areas, and expand when needed. That was the NHS resources in that area can control their demand, and we try and stop the spread outwards. Seeing people talking about how cheap holidays and air travel is at the moment I just find to be hugely irresponsible and contributing to the spread of this virus at a time when we should be restricting our movements and the places we go to.
 
There has to be a balance over the severity of the outbreak. If the UK did as you suggest you may end up financially starving the very poorest in society to prevent them getting something that in most people is a mild viral infection.

So you avoid a fever but lose your house because you can’t work?

Avoid a cough but your employer goes out of business and you can’t afford to buy food.

If the virus was showing severe morbidity and mortality then the airports would have been shut down, it just isn’t looking to cause enough health impact to warrant the fall-out off shutting the country down.

It seems like a callous calculation when you consider individuals will die from the virus but effectively you could easily end up in a situation where the response to the virus is more damaging to individuals than the virus itself.
 
The government is primarily interested in tax receipts. There is no way they will limit economic activity on such a scale until the spread of the disease represents a greater threat to said economic activity than doing nothing/very little as at present.
 
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