Coronavirus

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Coronavirus - The Poll

  1. Not had test

    42.3%
  2. Tested negative

    50.7%
  3. Tested positive

    7.0%
  1. Vik

    Vik TowersStreet Member

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    My GP was awful, despite getting a text inviting me to call to get booked in, every time I called I was told no appointments. It was another 4 weeks or more before my age group became eligible, so at that point could not book online. Even then I was told no appointments, so booked online, and though I got somewhere reasonably local, I was offered places such as Bradford, Blackpool etc which are 90 minute drives away. I don't think our local GP's are doing any more bookings now for first vaccinations after this week, I assume this is a country wide thing?, with everything going to mass vaccination centres?
     
  2. imanautie

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    GPs got a bonus payment for their referrals, not sure if that's continuing.
     
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    Same with me every time they text me all places were booked, I just kept on using the same link everyday till I got lucky.
    It was almost as painful as last years map rebook


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  5. Jb85

    Jb85 TowersStreet Member

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    This four more weeks is a lie
    You wait and see!!


    The trajectory shows this will peak at similar levels to January even without the stage 4 easing.

    The sensible thing to do right now is stay as we are and reinforce the message re distancing

    It’ll come back to bite us in the arse else
     
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    Can someone explain to me why Hungary had a football stadium full of 60,000 people today with no masks or distancing?

    Did Covid decide against going to Budapest then?
     
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    Probably simply that they’ve balanced up the risks of removing all social interaction rules, and the risks in keeping them, and come to the opposite conclusion to us?


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    Also worth noting that Hungary currently has a very low number of cases; the 7 day average as of yesterday was 128 cases per day according to Worldometers.
     
  10. Dave

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    They are not that worried about “cases” they are worried about hospitalisation and the impact 2 doses of the vaccine has on that. As far as the government is concerned if there where 50,000 cases a day but only 80-120 hospital admissions then they will open.

    The reason for extending is we don’t have enough hospitalisation data, people tend to get admitted 7-14 days after start of symptom and hospital data is about 4-5 days behind (as it takes time to pull together admission data), so they just don’t yet know what the health system impact is.
     
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  11. Jb85

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    I totally get that
    But... even if there is a low % of cases turning into hospitalisations - the higher number cases are the more hospitalisations you will get.

    Logically they will want to keep hospitalisations at a minimal level. I guess it’s a giant juggling act
     
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    A juggling act that is basically chuck a load of balls into the air and duck for cover....
     
  13. Dave

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    It’s more complicated than that, Covid is one respiratory virus of thousands. Seriously people have had their heads in the sand on how bad these respiratory virus’s can be. If a virus starts to rarely harm people more than a few days off work society ignores it.

    The point of vaccines was never realistically to stop the virus (it would have been nice but only one disease has been completely stopped by vaccines), the point was to stop serious harm. If we can say the virus isn’t killing thousands (just hundreds) then we have a situation closer to pre Covid (I remember some bad virus winters, it was messy).
     
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    So yesterday we were told they're not going to vaccinate children yet and today they've said we might have too. Watch this be the next thing that delays the end of restrictions
     
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    They being different people/groups. Yesterday appeared to be a source the BBC spoke to at the JCVI and today it was a senior doctor in Israel who has spoken to the BBC. Posts that are not researched/conveyed are not exactly helpful I must say.

    I personally think that if it is safe to do so then children should be vaccinated. There are a lot of outbreaks in schools at the moment and I dread to think of the number of pupils missing classes on a weekly basis because they are having to self isolate as a close contact. That is not at all sustainable going forward!
     
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    There was a long piece on vaccination of children on the radio this morning, and although the majority of arguments were for vaccination, the very valid point was made that there is only a finite supply of vaccine worldwide, and it would potentially be more prudent to ensure that more adults worldwide are vaccinated before moving onto younger age groups.
     
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    Do we know how long the vaccine effectiveness lasts?

    Some of the most vulnerable will have had their vaccine 6 months ago.



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    I think the second dose would have still been at least a month, if not three months after the first? So most will only be three months from the second dose being given now.

    Most information seems to suggest high levels of immunity (91% from Pfizer) for six months, and some for two years. There is some discussion that it might even last for a lifetime (similar to measles vaccine).

    I would expect it might need to continue as an annual jab similar to flu, especially if there are a lot of new variants.
     
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    They think that the immunity could be relatively long-lasting from both COVID infection and vaccination; the current thought is at least 8 months, probably longer.
     
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    The immune system is very clever. Antibody levels may fall over time following infection/vaccination, but the immune repsonse is far more than just those antibodies that are in the blood. Memory T Cells can kick in to action long after infection/vaccination.

    Nevertheless, my dad was told to expect a call up for a booster in the autumn (he has his first jab in early February, second jab in late April).
     
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