[The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation

[Earthwürm]

[SW7] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation

Now I thought a Zero-G roll was named as such because that's what it was originally intended to achieve, however it never actually did. So surely a Zero-G roll doesn't actually have to achieve Zero-G. I'm pretty sure the Zero-G roll on Shockwave never achieves Zero-G, but I've never heard the element disputed...I've typed Zero-G too many times, now it has no meaning whatsoever!

 

[Anonymous]

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Can I just say, who says the trains actually run the circuit as 16 and don't split up into two trains of 8...?

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[CupCakeMonster]

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Can I just say, who says the trains actually run the circuit as 16 and don't split up into two trains of 8...?

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But wouldn't the train splitting kill throughput? I personally can only ever see a train splitting when It's a ridiculously long train so as not to destroy the throughput.

I'm on my new fangled telecommunications device! So if I spell anything wrong, I do apologise.

 

[Benzin]

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Can I just say, who says the trains actually run the circuit as 16 and don't split up into two trains of 8...?

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Anyone who realises that it's an idea that would be extremely difficult to implement easily and not affect reliability or throughput...

Even Swarm going backwards is more viable than that concept...

 

[josht]

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Well this snow isn't going to help construction :/

 

[John]

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Surely splitting into 2 trains of 8 would lower the capacity to an unacceptable level? SW7 will have longer block sections than Saw and the throughput on that is pretty terrible. If a 32-seat train split into two 16s then it might be enough.

My main issue with the idea is the time it would take to split and re-join the two halves. You'd end up with a similar situation to Saw where one car is hanging around waiting for the block ahead to clear. Then at the end the front car would have to wait for the rear one to catch up. Chances are it would further reduce throughput though, and I'm not sure how much it would actually add to the experience. It's an interesting idea though, and could make a coaster more re-rideable if the front and back halves get different shows.

 

[Rollercoasters4Life]

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For me personally, what makes or breaks this ride is its restraints. If its OTSR then it will become rough after the first few seasons. If its lapbars then it will be a corker.

 

[Russ]

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I do not know if this has been posted but just found this image over on coaster force, It is rumoured to be the SW7 train design. I would take this with a big/massive pinch of salt.

I really like the look of this and think it could work plus it has lapbars .

Spoiler

 

[adsyrah]

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I do not know if this has been posted but just found this image over on coaster force, It is rumoured to be the SW7 train design.

I really like the look of this and think it could work plus it has lapbars .

Spoiler

That was debunked ages ago I'm afraid - it's a design by a fanboy who claims to work for Gerst.

(I think, or a fanboy who managed to get a job at Gerst - either way, in no way connected to SW7)

 

[BigT]

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I do not know if this has been posted but just found this image over on coaster force, It is rumoured to be the SW7 train design. I would take this with a big/massive pinch of salt.

I really like the look of this and think it could work plus it has lapbars .

Spoiler

Whilst it may not be exact, this is how I think it will look. Of course there are those on here that will tell you this is just a Eurofighter so won't agree.

 

[Tom]

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I really hope it is lap bars!

 

[Towers freak]

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I do not know if this has been posted but just found this image over on coaster force, It is rumoured to be the SW7 train design. I would take this with a big/massive pinch of salt.

I really like the look of this and think it could work plus it has lapbars .

Spoiler

Whilst it may not be exact, this is how I think it will look. Of course there are those on here that will tell you this is just a Eurofighter so won't agree.

Unfortunately this has been brought up before a few months ago and was ruled out as a concept for SW7 train. It's just a concept by a guy trying to get into the industry and isn't related to SW7.

 

[Dar]

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Shamelessly stolen from the marketing topic:

We have confirmation! The new name for SW7 will be called...

http://metro.co.uk/2013/01/21/eweve-been-framed-creepy-sheep-twitter-mystery-solved-3359300/

OH MY WORD!!

Also: We snow weather there's been construction carrying on... (Puntime!)

I love this picture

Although, the way some of the supports are positioned make me wonder if something else is happening with the pit. Maybe it is being partially covered?

 

[LordOfDarkness]

In the video attached to the metro news article it is described as being 'World First'...

Hello, Secret Element, are you calling?

 

[adsyrah]

So that pretty much confirms the spider will definitely feature and also infers (though is by no means confirmation) that the ride will have OTSR.

I'm not too fussed about it having OTSR restraints or not - if it were to have them the black/yellow will definitely compliment Oblivion's black/orange colour scheme.

 

[Dagan]

In the video attached to the metro news article it is described as being 'World First'...

To be fair, I feel Towers have diluted the phrase "Worlds First" these days to pretty just mean stuff like "The worlds first ride to be placed on the site of a ride called the Black Hole"

It's just a nice buzz phrase to use in marketing that doesn't really have to mean much, but sounds great.

 

[adsyrah]

In the video attached to the metro news article it is described as being 'World First'...

To be fair, I feel Towers have diluted the phrase "Worlds First" these days to pretty just mean stuff like "The worlds first ride to be placed on the site of a ride called the Black Hole"

It's just a nice buzz phrase to use in marketing that doesn't really have to mean much, but sounds great.

What makes you say that? I don't think they've banded the phrase "world first" around when they've not meant it. Air was maybe a bit of a stretch as there was already a flying coaster built, but Oblivion and Thirteen were very much world firsts.

 

[Dagan]

In the video attached to the metro news article it is described as being 'World First'...

To be fair, I feel Towers have diluted the phrase "Worlds First" these days to pretty just mean stuff like "The worlds first ride to be placed on the site of a ride called the Black Hole"

It's just a nice buzz phrase to use in marketing that doesn't really have to mean much, but sounds great.

What makes you say that? I don't think they've banded the phrase "world first" around when they've not meant it. Air was maybe a bit of a stretch as there was already a flying coaster built, but Oblivion and Thirteen were very much world firsts.

Oblivion was the first use of the phrase, and rightly so. It feels that the phrase worked as a marketing phrase they decided to use it as much as they can.

Okay, so the phrase has technically only been used to promote 4 products.

Oblivion - Okay, I'll give you that one. It was very much a first.

Air - Was the "worlds first" by a specific manufacturer, but for the general public with no knowledge of rides outside of the UK, it was used to make them think it was the first ride like this ever.

Th13teen - Yes it did feature the worlds first piece of track that dropped. And yes, I agree it was a technical marvel. But I felt they overused the "Worlds First" phrase and had included the element purely so they could use those buzz words in marketing.

The Smiler - Well, we shall see. This ride might shoot me down. I personally feel there won't be any special track elements, but rather will just have a few more inversions that were hidden from the plan. So it will be the WORLDS FIRST ride with X amount of inversions.

But we shall see. I truely feel that Oblvion was the only true Worlds First and the other uses of the saying were just marketing buzz.

Maybe it's because the whole 13 marketing left a sour taste with all of us.

 

[Dave]

I don't buy TT's idea of trick track, there wont be any i am sure of it. The track looks great from that angle and is going to be impressive when complete from a structural point of view.

Love the name too

 

[cotda]

In that picture, it looks like we may be getting some floorless Eurofighter trains?