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[The Smiler] Train Speculation

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At first glance I hated the trains, but they are against a horrible green screen and I imagine they will look much better in their proper environment. I don't like the optical illusions on the back of the seats, yuck. The yellow metal/grill seems overkill to me but it may be essential for adding some colour to an otherwise all black ride. Logo on the front is nice, 4 row arrangement looks better than I expected, it looks like a proper train. No seat belts will reduce faff so that's good to see and OTSR still comes as a disappointment despite preparing my soul for them since the news of the 14 inversions broke.

I think once they are on the track they will work well. Studios may add a few finishing touches too perhaps?

I've warmed to them quite a bit over the past half hour. :)
 
wouldn't the illusions on the back add to a lot of motion sickness? I have a feeling they may be removed if it causes a lot of mess.
 
^ That's one thing I have really been concerned about. I am honestly worried as to how many 'accidents' and illness this might cause as well as with these new optical illusions on the trains.
 
I. Love. The. Trains.

They look fantastic - bold and bright and seem to fit the ride so far! Really impressed.


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TBH, I kinda did think they would go with OTSR, still, the trains looks very good, has a bit of a Oblivion-esk shuttle feel about it with the front of it. :p

Now with the headbanger thing, who knows, if these are new types of trains they might be smoother than we expect. After all, if Vekoma could make better trains for their rides, then perhaps we might see the same thing here.
 
Perhaps the worlds first is that you are more likely to throw up when this thing is broken down and you are sat staring at those optical illusions for 30 minutes rather than when the ride is actually running. :p

I'm waiting for the front row for every ride. ;)
 
Well I genuinely did think the trains would look like the ones shown. I'd be fascinated to know were that design actually came from because it was far to detailed and realistic to have just been some concept art.

Ah well, the trains look ok. A bit to bog standard Eurofighter for my liking. And I won't lie the standard restraints has extinguished what little enthusiasm I had left for this ride. I'm not a fan of the decision to go for the inversion record but they could have at least done it with a unique twist.
 
Tim said:
Well I genuinely did think the trains would look like the ones shown. I'd be fascinated to know were that design actually came from because it was far to detailed and realistic to have just been some concept art.

I think marketeers, concept designers and even graphic designers such as myself would find your low-regard for their professions by belittling the level of detail and work they put in and questioning their competence quite offensive.

There's nothing to say that those designs were not concept art, other than your stubbornness not to be wrong. The massive Smiler symbols floating in mid-space on the back of the train actually goes further to suggest that they were.
 
Am I the only one who thinks these trains look vile?!

They look cheap, tacky, theres no themeing just UGH!

Wheres the swirls? The wires coming out the headrests?

They just look like Morrisons shopping trolleys.
 
I obviously have no idea what the trains were in the promotional images. However they were all very small relative to the bigger image. I would hazard a guess that they were photoshopped Zierer trains. They had similarities to cars seen on Wicked.

:)
 
Meat Pie said:
Tim said:
Well I genuinely did think the trains would look like the ones shown. I'd be fascinated to know were that design actually came from because it was far to detailed and realistic to have just been some concept art.

I think marketeers, concept designers and even graphic designers such as myself would find your low-regard for their professions by belittling the level of detail and work they put in and questioning their competence quite offensive.

There's nothing to say that those designs were not concept art, other than your stubbornness not to be wrong. The massive Smiler symbols floating in mid-space on the back of the train actually goes further to suggest that they were.

Why are you always so damn rude! This is why I can't seriously debate with you.

The pictures in The Sun showed a photoshop of something that was real. Maybe it was a model or some other train (although it looks like nothing I know that exists) but definitely real.

The other image was concept art done by a designer (which I already said was brilliant). And that image of the Smiler on the back was clearly not going to be real as I said many times before.
 
siralgenon said:
Am I the only one who thinks these train look vile?!

They look cheap, tacky, theres no themeing just UGH!

Wheres the swirls? The wires coming out the headrests?

They just look like Morrisons shopping trolleys.
The backs of the seats are covered in swirls? The logo is emblazoned across the front of the train? The seats are bright and bold?

Why should there be wires coming out of the headrests?


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siralgenon said:
Am I the only one who thinks these train look vile?!

They look cheap, tacky, theres no themeing just UGH!

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I'm not so sure about you, but the Smiler logo to me counts as Themeing
 
Scott said:
siralgenon said:
Am I the only one who thinks these train look vile?!

They look cheap, tacky, theres no themeing just UGH!

Wheres the swirls? The wires coming out the headrests?

They just look like Morrisons shopping trolleys.
The backs of the seats are covered in swirls? The logo is emblazoned across the front of the train? The seats are bright and bold?

Why should there be wires coming out of the headrests?


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I know the trains have the optical illusions on the headrests which is a nice touch, but the concepts showed, swirls over the trains and wires coming out the headrests like you'd seen in brainwashing. Im just a little let down by the lack of detail.
 
siralgenon said:
Scott said:
siralgenon said:
Am I the only one who thinks these train look vile?!

They look cheap, tacky, theres no themeing just UGH!

Wheres the swirls? The wires coming out the headrests?

They just look like Morrisons shopping trolleys.
The backs of the seats are covered in swirls? The logo is emblazoned across the front of the train? The seats are bright and bold?

Why should there be wires coming out of the headrests?


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I know the trains have the optical illusions on the headrests which is a nice touch, but the concepts showed, swirls over the trains and wires coming out the headrests like you'd seen in brainwashing. Im just a little let down by the lack of detail.

And I wouldn't class a few stickers themeing :/
 
siralgenon said:
Scott said:
siralgenon said:
Am I the only one who thinks these train look vile?!

They look cheap, tacky, theres no themeing just UGH!

Wheres the swirls? The wires coming out the headrests?

They just look like Morrisons shopping trolleys.
The backs of the seats are covered in swirls? The logo is emblazoned across the front of the train? The seats are bright and bold?

Why should there be wires coming out of the headrests?


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I know the trains have the optical illusions on the headrests which is a nice touch, but the concepts showed, swirls over the trains and wires coming out the headrests like you'd seen in brainwashing. Im just a little let down by the lack of detail.

And the moral of the story, never look too much into promotional images! I love that the trains look simple, they don't need to be overly detailed. I also think that the design will complement Oblivion really well and I wouldn't be surprised if this was done deliberately.

:)
 
Tim - I find you very rude also. In terms of tone, I give exactly back what you emit. :)

I've just had enough, even after you are proved categorically wrong, you can't accept it's a mistake on your part and that marketeers and graphic designers did their job well, instead you have to invent that they've been inaccurate.

There was nothing in those original images that showed a lap-bar, and finally we have proof. Give it up.
 
Meat Pie said:
Tim - I find you very rude also. In terms of tone, I give exactly back what you emit. :)

I've just had enough, even after you are proved categorically wrong, you can't accept it's a mistake on your part and that marketeers and graphic designers did their job well, instead you have to invent that they've been inaccurate.

There was nothing in those original images that showed a lap-bar, and finally we have proof. Give it up.

Hey hang on m...ate (lol), you are being out of order and far too cock sure.

I usually defend your posts, but Tim has expressed disappointment that some great theme elements that were present on promotional images, (actually a COMPLIMENT), were not used on the car design itself.

Way, way too much gloating going on around here - I loved the idea of lapbars, but it's OTSRs, well done those who stayed to their points. Many of you were convinced that camera image had NOTHING to do with the inversion number either...

Good gracious me, talk about pruning your feathers pmsl!

As for the trains, compared to that image we all were having a good mooch at these are no where near as good. That I believe is what is being said here. The others looked far more like some kind of contraption, these, er, don't.

Oooooooooh they have yellow - and that's about the difference other than two extra rows from Saw. Oh, and a Smiley face.

I am really, really not that arsed whether it was Lap Bars or OTSR's (before anyone argues, read my previous posts), I was however convinced it would be Lap Bars - and had a bit of tongue in cheek fun about it all.

But the display in here of people waving their proverbial manhoods around, you'd think you'd never been right about anything before lol!!

Well done you, it's an inferior ride system and car design - gosh, you must be proud ;D

pmsl, honestly.

Oh hang on - let me buckle up (well, OTSR technically now) for a tirade of abuse as I dared to criticise something again... can't have that can we.
 
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