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Secret Weapon 7 Discussion
Ian
TS Team
If I recall from my Product Design studies correctly normal concrete becomes more or less impossible to pour at 3 degrees C. This is due to the water separating and freezing. All it'll take is a harsh winter to really mess up plans. Ideally I'd hope they have all the footers and foundations in for the end of October, as after then the temperature is going to start to drop.
It also doesn't help that the resort isn't the easiest place for access. Once past Cheadle those roads aren't great for HGVs in the best of weather, yet alone snow and ice!
It also doesn't help that the resort isn't the easiest place for access. Once past Cheadle those roads aren't great for HGVs in the best of weather, yet alone snow and ice!
Scott
Former TS Team Member
I know it's easy to worry and start to panic about timeframes and such - particularly from past experiences within the park. However, I would be fairly sure that many eventualities have been planned for - such as cold weather, wet weather and other prolonged periods of difficult or changeable conditions.
I wouldn't worry too much yet.
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I wouldn't worry too much yet.
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Rob
TS Team
A few photos I got at Towers yesterday.
The hole has got bigger since last week, it's going to be very interesting to what happens with it. A few of us were trying to work out what it could be for over the weekend but it seems a bit of a mystery.
Once again TowersStreet are free to use my photos if they wish!







The hole has got bigger since last week, it's going to be very interesting to what happens with it. A few of us were trying to work out what it could be for over the weekend but it seems a bit of a mystery.
Once again TowersStreet are free to use my photos if they wish!
Tim
TS Member
As a general rule I tend not to speculate on ride themes. If you look into them in too much detail there’s a very slim chance you’ll guess everything right. There’s also a very likely chance you’ll have what you feel is a better idea and just be disappointed they didn’t use it. Add to that all the hour we spent speculating Th13teens story only for it not to have one.
However I think this Ministry of Joy back-story is growing on me. It’s actually quite compatible with Oblivion in the sense that it’s another form of experimentation.
I’d also like it note that although I’m against the plans for the station design those Photoshopped images look amazing. As I’ve said before I’m not against run down themes but they have to look exaggerated in there run down nature. As such they feel like they’re actually part of a theme rather than as an excuse for poor maintenance.
However I think this Ministry of Joy back-story is growing on me. It’s actually quite compatible with Oblivion in the sense that it’s another form of experimentation.
I’d also like it note that although I’m against the plans for the station design those Photoshopped images look amazing. As I’ve said before I’m not against run down themes but they have to look exaggerated in there run down nature. As such they feel like they’re actually part of a theme rather than as an excuse for poor maintenance.
Ian
TS Team
Yes, most of the exterior paths will have a concrete base to them. They will probably also be cementing fences in place as well. Given it's paving being used here I'd say that means more concrete will be used than if it were tarmac, to ensure a solid base to lay them on.
Remember as well, it's not just queuelines here. They have a whole plaza to build in front of the ride!
Remember as well, it's not just queuelines here. They have a whole plaza to build in front of the ride!
Ian
TS Team
Well that depends how it goes over the next few weeks. If this rain we've been having doesn't hold up they'll be having problems with the concrete washing away. I doubt the plaza bases will be down until track construction is complete. Given the track goes over it all they won't want to create a concrete plaza base, only for cranes and machinery to be sitting on it and potentially ruin it meaning it needs to be redone before the paving goes down. Wasn't Swarm's plaza all put down after the ride was more or less running if I remember rightly?
In terms of time-scale shouldnt we have had footers down already?
I guess the best coaster to compare this to (in terms of construction) would be Saw? Similar ride system, should technically be similar construction time (minus the land infilling etc). So, we're footers up already? I think they were and the station building taking shape of I remember correctly.
I guess the best coaster to compare this to (in terms of construction) would be Saw? Similar ride system, should technically be similar construction time (minus the land infilling etc). So, we're footers up already? I think they were and the station building taking shape of I remember correctly.
Ian
TS Team
I believe by this point Saw was already having track put up. I would have hoped we'd at least have some footers in place by this point personally. Saw is probably the closest for us to compare to, but I think this should be a bit further ahead than Saw at this point, given the much more complex site we're working with. Both Saw and Th13teen were constructed on reasonably flat ground (Granted, Saw did need reclamation) whereas here hardly any of the site looks set to be flat. It's all undulating and will need some landscaping as well.
Sammy
TS Team
Just for a quick comparison to Saw: The Ride
Here is the site on the 17th of August
And here it is on the 11th of September, the day it broke ground with Steel construction
Sooo, in reality, I don't think we need to be that worried, it is perhaps a little behind on things, but I think it should all be okay! I mean, these things all happen very very quickly! Lets be honest, The Swarm didn't start track construction till October last year and that was ready well before opening!
Here is the site on the 17th of August
And here it is on the 11th of September, the day it broke ground with Steel construction
Sooo, in reality, I don't think we need to be that worried, it is perhaps a little behind on things, but I think it should all be okay! I mean, these things all happen very very quickly! Lets be honest, The Swarm didn't start track construction till October last year and that was ready well before opening!
Alastair
TS Team
I'd much prefer the Saw situation to be honest (without the dire conclusive ride). You can see there that, even 11 days before today, concrete foundations had already been laid well in advance of that photo being taken. Absolutely nothing has been done to the SW7 site with the exception of removing a few bricks and digging a huge hole.
Scott.Smith
TS Member
Image from the King on Costerforce
Here is a picture edited on paint to give you a idea of how the way the rollercoaster enters being in relation to where the public exit section is.
Key:
Yellow-Markers placed on site.
Green-Where I think later markers will be placed on the site, by the plans.
Blue-Foundation area for the public exit of the building.
Grey-Foundation walls.
Here is a picture edited on paint to give you a idea of how the way the rollercoaster enters being in relation to where the public exit section is.

Key:
Yellow-Markers placed on site.
Green-Where I think later markers will be placed on the site, by the plans.
Blue-Foundation area for the public exit of the building.
Grey-Foundation walls.
delta79
TS Member
Rob said:A few photos I got at Towers yesterday.
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They have got to be careful they don't loose the digger in the hole
ThemeParkJack
TS Member
Construction update. I took this picture on Tuesday 28th. The hole is getting very deep (No pun intended)

Groundking
TS Member
Scott.Smith said:Image from the King on Costerforce
Here is a picture edited on paint to give you a idea of how the way the rollercoaster enters being in relation to where the public exit section is.
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Key:
Yellow-Markers placed on site.
Green-Where I think later markers will be placed on the site, by the plans.
Blue-Foundation area for the public exit of the building.
Grey-Foundation walls.
That's wrong though the station is going to be in the much smaller pit just behind the big one. Plus you don't enter it at ground level.
Either way it's all looking good, but they really need to have built all the foundation by october ish
Prometheus
TS Member
^ Excellent news, whereabouts on the site roughly Dave?